Bike keeps dying, high idle, help?83 kz650

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28 Aug 2013 17:33 #603577 by Tj_saxon
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Not yet but I am going to soon :) and I am gonna invest in a new throttle cable and speedo cable. My speedo doesnt work. I rode it for the first time today. It was amazing. Super fast. Sounds like its running weird though.

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28 Aug 2013 20:04 #603593 by Patton
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Tj_saxon wrote: Yea sir, I've got it idling at 1500ish rpms. It's idling fine (ish). It's just when I rev it, it takes so long for it to wind down. Kinda like its sticking and slowly releasing.

If not already done, would inspect the timing advancer to assure it isn't hanging due to rust or whatever. Perhaps the weight arm pivots need lubing.

The advancer's not supposed to look like this:





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28 Aug 2013 20:41 #603598 by Tj_saxon
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I will be 100% honest and say I have no clue where that is.

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Tj_saxon wrote: Yea sir, I've got it idling at 1500ish rpms. It's idling fine (ish). It's just when I rev it, it takes so long for it to wind down. Kinda like its sticking and slowly releasing.

If not already done, would inspect the timing advancer to assure it isn't hanging due to rust or whatever. Perhaps the weight arm pivots need lubing.

The advancer's not supposed to look like this:





Good Fortune! :)


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28 Aug 2013 21:02 #603603 by rcook52459
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take off the round cover on the right side.two allen bolts it's there.

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28 Aug 2013 21:12 #603604 by Tj_saxon
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What should I use to clean it?

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28 Aug 2013 22:12 #603614 by rcook52459
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brake clean ,solvent stuff like that will work.then lube it when done

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28 Aug 2013 22:21 #603616 by Tj_saxon
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Ok, thanks again guys. I highly doubt I woulda got to ride it today if it weren't for you guys.

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29 Aug 2013 10:44 - 29 Aug 2013 12:57 #603704 by martin_csr
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Patton wrote: If not already done, would inspect the timing advancer to assure it isn't hanging due to rust or whatever. Perhaps the weight arm pivots need lubing.

The advancer's not supposed to look like this:

[photo]see rusty advancer above [/photo]


Good Fortune! :)

No kidding. hee.

You should use an impact driver to remove the engine cover bolts & the pulsing coil screws. I use the hand type - insert a proper bit, put it in place on the bolt, then whack the end of the tool w a hammer. You could spray some penetrant beforehand. See photo below for details to remove the advancer. Or reference the manual.

After removing the advancer, separate the rotor from the body to give it a good cleaning, then lubricate it. Be sure to fill the groove w grease. I don't know the best lubricant. White lithium & dielectric grease seem to evaporate, leaving the advancer dry after a period of time. I used high temp wheel bearing grease the last time. Install a new gasket afterwards.

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29 Aug 2013 20:28 #603798 by Tj_saxon
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Not sure I really want to dive into something like that. I have never messed with actually setting timing and stuff. I might leave this for someone else. Lol.

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29 Aug 2013 21:33 #603808 by martin_csr
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You should go ahead and service the advancer. There isn't much to it & there's no timing to set. The only hard part is removing the bolts, and that may turn out easy. Take a photo of the pulsing coil before you remove it & do the same w the advancer. It's kinda hard to mess up, really. I think everything goes back together only one way. There's an alignment pin for the advancer.

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29 Aug 2013 21:58 #603816 by Tj_saxon
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Ok, that's very comforting, I saw something about top dead center in the picture and I knew that was timing.

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30 Aug 2013 06:05 #603889 by Tj_saxon
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Just curious is there any way the idle sticking could have been to the bike being cold, I just got back from a ride to check out noises and what not and when I pulled into the yard and revved it a few times it idled down fine.

On a different page the bike makes a weird sound while riding under throttle. It's like a whirring sound. It doesn't make it holding the clutch and just coasting but as soon as I start to let off the clutch I can hear it start to come back until clutch is fully released and then it's back to constantly making it. It increases with throttle.

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