Tri.... scores one for the barn find column 79MK11

Not sure about the dyna but the stock MKII plate was NOT adjustable. You can file the holes a bit to get movement if you'd like. Not sure if you'll need it though...

The individual pick up sensor possible adjustments on the Dyna (S) plate is extremely small ~ 1-2mm only, if that even... The damn attaching screws barely catch the individual sensors flat lip surface.

Interesting on the Dyna III...
Doesn't Otto have this? Can't remember but someone here does....

As in my case, had to elongate the Dyna S plate slots ~ 3/16"... Followed the manual for static where the plate could be rotated far enough to even get the marks close.

Then during dynamic adjustments, slight tweak of the pick up sensors for adjustments for 1/4 & 2/3....

If I remember correctly, @ Z1 they wrote due to the different timing advancer units, you need to order the correct Dyna unit for this issue...

Jeff would be able to give some further insight to this I would think.... Same time, if you didn't obtain from Z1, just modify the plate accordingly....

And most definitely, junk that $15 TL.... A decent unit ~ $50 from most auto parts store...

Kinda like the gauge sets... I thought I had it fairly dialed in with the analog set... engine ran, sounded pretty good, pulled fairly well etc... but once I received the Morgan unit, compared the sync measurements and found I was way off on a couple cylinders by 5-10mm... Whoa....

Re-synced and went for a ride... Wholly KZ batman, huge difference in performance.... Nearly poopy pants....:blush:

Ah well, spend the time and get her dialed in big guy where the marks are spot on at idle and then at specified higher rpm... It's worth it...

Patton wrote:

Another tip when timing the Dyna III ---

Would suggest first trying to get timing as close as possible by moving the entire backing plate in the slotted grooves. The timing may happen to be correct without having to separately fine tune each module within its 10 degree allowance.

As delivered, each module is likely in mid-position within its adjustment range, and already 180 degrees apart from each other. Where 1-4 F mark alignment should equate to 2-3 F mark alignment. All without having to fine tune each separate module....

moving the entire backing plate in the slotted grooves. Yikes! I have thrown you a curve :blush: based on Dyna-S and pic in Dyna III instructions. :pinch:

The instruction pic shows slotted holes (like a Dyna-S).

Reviewed and magnified the earlier pic you posted of the Dyna III being installed. Am pretty sure that your Dyna III backing plate mounting holes are NOT slotted. Leaving only separate module adjustments to set ignition timing.

Another oddity is that I believe your bike's oem ignition was electronic igniter style. Yet one of the pics you posted clearly shows a points ignition on the bike. :huh:
Presumably, points had been earlier retrofitted.

Regardless of no slots, I would still use the F marks at idle rpm to set timing with the individual module adjustments. Then later verify timing at higher rpm using the double marks on the advancer.

Here's the Dyna III instruction pic showing slotted holes.:huh:

Good Fortune!

And here's a magnification of your earlier posted pic showing the actual Dyna III backing plate (that appears to have Non-slotted mounting holes).

Click on the image for an extra-large view.

Here's the earlier posted pic showing points on MKII instead of the MKII's oem elecronic igniter style ignition with pick-up coils.

Click on image to magnify.

Good Fortune!

Look at the difference of the individual senor tab lengths...

Kinda of hard to see in Patton's image.... but as you can in the Dyna 3, the Allen heads are at the very end of the sensor tabs....

Craig... close up image please... Preferably in focus... :whistle: :laugh:

trianglelaguna wrote:

took me a few to find the right sockett and wrench combo to grab the thin 17mm and turn the 13mm

Further confirms non-slotted holes in mounting plate.

Boo on me for failing to notice this much sooner. :ohmy:

Click on image to magnify.

Good Fortune!

Old Man Rock wrote:

...close up image please... Preferably in focus....

Tri asks two gals to hold still while he gets focused.

Gal#1: What he say?

Gal#2: He say he gonna focus.

Gal#1: Both us?

Good Fortune!

who knows what the P.O did but i am almost 100% that the 1979 MKII A-3 was elec ign.....i noticed the points right away...


(side note)my KZ1000J project came with 4 dresser drawers full of extras and misc j parts...there are 3 elec ignition plates with the pulse coils and wires all nicley wrapped in zip locks ...they say 81 kz1000 in sharpie...the owner passed and was nice enough to mark most parts with a i.d..
these would not work on the 79 prob but it is interesting when i see em in the drawer...and they may be important to some member sometime.....i digress

i thought because the engine was not black when i got the bike that maybe the original engine was replaced with a MKII LTD and it was earlier kz-z-1 technology inside...but i checked the motor numbers and it reads that it is a A-3 japan man. Engine...i did not count the cam teeth as my A.D.D was a struggle when completing multiple repairs and resto...i even waited to bolt down the restored vavle cover till the next day just to count the cam teeth with a clear head...seems i woke up the next day and totaly forgot...but i think the engine cae webs and motor #'s are a pretty sure bet it is a A-3 engine

Patton wrote:

Old Man Rock wrote:

...close up image please... Preferably in focus....

Tri asks two gals to hold still while he gets focused.

Gal#1: What he say?

Gal#2: He say he gonna focus.

Gal#1: Both us?

Good Fortune!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

i may roll it out and work some on it today...or i may get a call from the gpz guy(see c-list thread)...also i start my night shift week tonight and gotta stay low key and nap or i will pay dearly as the nights drag on with day play times adding up quick....


waking up to below normal temps for our 4th month....see below quote

Mark Twain

"The coldest winter I ever saw was the summer I spent in San Francisco."

If I remember correctly, the 81 ignition plate and triggers are the same as the 79. I think I looked that up once a long time ago. You could use it if you ever had to.

I have an MSD ignition but still trigger it with the stock pick ups and rotor. I've never timed mine because the holes are not slotted - makes me wonder though if it would be worth checking? Maybe there's a little adjustment on the individual pick ups??