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21 Dec 2009 04:24 #340127 by 9am53
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yeah I pushed the feelers in flat like you say, and I pushed them in until they were bending, I am sure there was little to no clearance unfortunately.

One benefit to being a newbie is that this isn't a chore yet, it's kind of fun and exciting if you can believe that!

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28 Dec 2009 20:45 - 28 Dec 2009 20:47 #341017 by 9am53
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While waiting for my helicoils to get hereI have been catching up on painting, I have the tank and side covers painted and curing so I can wetsand and clearcoat them.

Before I go taking the head apart again to helicoil it up, I took some pics of my cam sprockets to make sure I had them set right.





I spun the crank around many times hoping to get the exhaust arrow pointing perfect, but it always came out like this...if I go a tooth lower it is WAY off. The pic makes it look a little higher than it is, but it is perfectly flat, and the arrow is maybe 1 mm above the edge of the head.

The intake cam is counted 44 pins from the pin above the EX arrow, and lines up nicely with the head edge.

Are these cams set up ok?
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28 Dec 2009 22:02 #341027 by PLUMMEN
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28 pins between timing marks on cams B)

Still recovering,some days are better than others.

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29 Dec 2009 06:04 - 29 Dec 2009 06:11 #341037 by Old Man Rock
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Mind you, this is for the KZ900 and the early KZ1000's are pretty much the same from what I understand...

@ 28th tooth counts, count one up from the Intake dimple /arrow aligned with the head decking to the exhaust dimple/arrow! ... Your cam lobes should be the same as in this image, right side of the bike cylinder 4, lobes are facing each other and aligned with head decking.... ;)

Don't forget, also rotate for 1/4 TDC for this alignment!


1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az
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29 Dec 2009 06:12 #341039 by 9am53
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I have a J bike with the hyvo chain, so it's 44 teeth in the manual. I will check to see if my cams lobes are set like that. those lobes will be facing perfectly flat like that for 1 and 4 right?

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29 Dec 2009 06:13 #341040 by Old Man Rock
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just in case... ;)

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az
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29 Dec 2009 06:23 #341044 by 9am53
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dave, how do you post pics from the manual like that? I have an e-manual at work for my bike and can't figure out how to post stuff. I have a full version of acrobat....

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29 Dec 2009 06:43 #341048 by Old Man Rock
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Interesting, my 81-83 Manual (J Head) doesn't even mention tooth count, only cam sprocket arrow to head deck alignments... Hmmm.... Maybe just the way it works out on the counts....

Excerpts out of my manual, seems to be the same cam sprockets as in your images...

At TDC for 1/4 pistons, insure the intake/exhaust arrows are positioned as in depicted in 2-7 #1 drawing.

Then in rotation of the crank, your cam sprocket arrows should match depictions in 2-7 #2- #4 drawings.

As for lobe orientations, I would think they should match as well... Sorry, don't have a J-head for confirmations but I'm sure Plum, TB33 or some others can chime in for confirmations....

Keep at bud....

OMR

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az
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29 Dec 2009 06:50 #341050 by Old Man Rock
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dave, how do you post pics from the manual like that? I have an e-manual at work for my bike and can't figure out how to post stuff. I have a full version of acrobat....


Easy...
1) Open the pdf in what ever application...
Got to what ever page and +/- zoom of the pdf
what you want to capture.
2) Then on key board, press Print Screen Key....
This screen captures into clipboard memory.
3) In Paint or Photo Shop whatever application, paste.
Clipboard screen capture pasted...
4) Edit size, red boxes, Text whatever...
5) Save as Jpg (smaller size then bmp format) for
posting in KZR....

Same with video... Example you-tube screeny...
Print screen key then paste into jpeg Paint application...

See, simple!

Dave

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az

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29 Dec 2009 07:02 #341051 by 9am53
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awesome thanks!

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29 Dec 2009 07:09 #341052 by 9am53
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Old Man Rock wrote:

Interesting, my 81-83 Manual (J Head) doesn't even mention tooth count, only cam sprocket arrow to head deck alignments... Hmmm.... Maybe just the way it works out on the counts....

Excerpts out of my manual, seems to be the same cam sprockets as in your images...

At TDC for 1/4 pistons, insure the intake/exhaust arrows are positioned as in depicted in 2-7 #1 drawing.

Then in rotation of the crank, your cam sprocket arrows should match depictions in 2-7 #2- #4 drawings.

As for lobe orientations, I would think they should match as well... Sorry, don't have a J-head for confirmations but I'm sure Plum, TB33 or some others can chime in for confirmations....

Keep at bud....

OMR


That's my manual, I would post a pic with my newly acquired posting skillz, but I only have a real manual at home (not at work today :) look at pages 6-19 and 6-20 for what I am talking about...

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29 Dec 2009 07:18 - 29 Dec 2009 07:18 #341055 by Old Man Rock
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You have a digital camera?

Done the same by imaging the manual page (zoom, no flash) with my camera and download into the computer... Edit in Paint app... Same results!

Just a thought...

When your all done, image your lobe orientations (right side of bike) for crank rotations as depicted in 2-7 #1-4 for future reference and for others to follow... ;)

Dave

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az
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