Rear wheel tightening?

mvent wrote: It's a 78 A2A, will go on Kawasaki.com to compare to manual

jonnybravo wrote: ALSO
if the axle nut doesnt tighten against the swingarm then its up to the axle adjusters to keep the axle from moving under pressure and they arent designed to do that (unless the axle is all the way forward against part number 26), they are exactly the same as the 73 to 76,
www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/19...-us/o/m3930#sch38752
dont believe me, go loosen up ur axle nut and kick the rear tire and watch it move, so what keeps the axle in place ????, the pressure on the swingarm, PERIOD, pressure on the liner and spacer isnt going to keep the axle from moving, thats common sense

T_Dub wrote:

jonnybravo wrote: ALSO
if the axle nut doesnt tighten against the swingarm then its up to the axle adjusters to keep the axle from moving under pressure and they arent designed to do that (unless the axle is all the way forward against part number 26), they are exactly the same as the 73 to 76,
www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/19...-us/o/m3930#sch38752
dont believe me, go loosen up ur axle nut and kick the rear tire and watch it move, so what keeps the axle in place ????, the pressure on the swingarm, PERIOD, pressure on the liner and spacer isnt going to keep the axle from moving, thats common sense

Wow, thats not accurate at all. Pressure, and therefore friction, is all that keeps most lap joints together. In most bolted joints the bolt is only supposed to provide a tension force, and thats what keeps everything together. Bolts are rarely meant to take shear in a situation like you describe.

T_Dub wrote:

jonnybravo wrote: ALSO
if the axle nut doesnt tighten against the swingarm then its up to the axle adjusters to keep the axle from moving under pressure and they arent designed to do that (unless the axle is all the way forward against part number 26), they are exactly the same as the 73 to 76,
www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/19...-us/o/m3930#sch38752
dont believe me, go loosen up ur axle nut and kick the rear tire and watch it move, so what keeps the axle in place ????, the pressure on the swingarm, PERIOD, pressure on the liner and spacer isnt going to keep the axle from moving, thats common sense

Wow, thats not accurate at all. Pressure, and therefore friction, is all that keeps most lap joints together. In most bolted joints the bolt is only supposed to provide a tension force, and thats what keeps everything together. Bolts are rarely meant to take shear in a situation like you describe.

T_Dub wrote: The axle doesn't move becuse of the friction between the swingarm and the adjuster, created by the tension in the axle, which causes an equal and opposite outward force that comes from the "springiness" in the spacers and bearing races. These forces result in a pressure between the swingarm and the adjuster face. This pressure is what resists movement of the axle, because it causes friction between the swingarm and the adjusters.