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Re: Rear wheel tightening?

21 Sep 2011 06:15
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yeah i dont torque the nut on rear wheel down either,i just tighten it as tight as i can get it with my big ol cresent wrench and still get a cotter pin in there.
im not sure what differance leaving brake arm loose makes,ive never had to loosen one to tighten a chain. B)
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Re: Rear wheel tightening?

21 Sep 2011 06:24
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just for its and grins i looked up the torque specs for rear wheel it says between 72-101 ft lbs on that nut,id say thats a lot of allowance for what ever the situation may be for each particular bike! :laugh:
if the wheel doesnt spin at 101 lbs try setting your torque wrench to 75 lbs and see if it spins,at 150lbs id be willing to bet that wheel aint gonna budge! :sick:
the bolt will only stretch so much then its going to shove the spacers into the bearings turning it into one giant emergency brake! :woohoo:
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Re: Rear wheel tightening?

21 Sep 2011 06:27
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wireman wrote: just for its and grins i looked up the torque specs for rear wheel it says between 72-101 ft lbs on that nut,id say thats a lot of allowance for what ever the situation may be for each particular bike! :laugh:
if the wheel doesnt spin at 101 lbs try setting your torque wrench to 75 lbs and see if it spins,at 150lbs id be willing to bet that wheel aint gonna budge! :sick:
the bolt will only stretch so much then its going to shove the spacers into the bearings turning it into one giant emergency brake! :woohoo:

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Re: Rear wheel tightening?

21 Sep 2011 08:27
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Hmmm, not going to get into the torque debate :whistle: but one thing as mentioned, should free spin regardless... That's how it was designed and most likely operated the first five years of her life.

With that said, being an Anal-retentive-A-hole I am :pinch: :blush: resistance/friction equates to heat. Depending on the component, damage can and most likely will happen... I'd sure want to confirm/verify WTF was wrong...

What 78 KZ1000 model for parts look up, look the same as your installation?

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Re: Rear wheel tightening?

21 Sep 2011 08:31
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Old Man Rock wrote: Hmmm, not going to get into the torque debate :whistle: but one thing as mentioned, should free spin regardless... That's how it was designed and most likely operated the first five years of her life.

With that said, being an Anal-retentive-A-hole I am :pinch: :blush: resistance/friction equates to heat. Depending on the component, damage can and most likely will happen... I'd sure want to confirm/verify WTF was wrong...

What 78 KZ1000 model for parts look up, look the same as your installation?

Just my 2 worthless cents...
wont spin regardless if the damn spacers are shoved into the bearings ! :sick: :woohoo:
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Re: Rear wheel tightening?

21 Sep 2011 08:32
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Well I guess you just proved my point, SOMETHING IS WRONG HERE.... :laugh:
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Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

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Re: Rear wheel tightening?

21 Sep 2011 08:36
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and youre it! :woohoo:
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Re: Rear wheel tightening?

21 Sep 2011 09:26
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[quote="Old Man Rock" post=478228)

With that said, being an Anal-retentive-A-hole I am :pinch: [/quote]

hmmm, u now qualify for the KZ Rider PLARB Moderator Program :woohoo:

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Re: Rear wheel tightening?

21 Sep 2011 09:33
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Patton wrote: Were wheel bearings replaced before reassembly?

Yes new bearings, spokes and rims, original hubs, break arm in place but not torqued, could it be the bearings? there was a sleeve if I remember correctly that set location.
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Re: Rear wheel tightening?

21 Sep 2011 09:33
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T_Dub wrote:
jonnybravo wrote:
mvent wrote: 78 KZ1000, have rear wheel centered, chain on, caliper in place, brake arm attached, assembled spacer sequence using manual, must have screwed up because when I tighten castle nut wheel won't spin, what did I do wrong, HELP :angry:
Mike

i HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY A INDY WHO WAS A WRENCH/DEALER for Kawasaki IN THE 70'S ( AND KNOWS these BIKES BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS) TO PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE TORQUE spec, tighten till firm and thats good, worked for me, now the others will slam and advise against, so ...... ur decision

When you torque it down you're torquing an assembly of steel spacers and bearing housings, not torquing it has absolutely no advantage whatsoever. I'm sure the guys at Kawi who wrote the service manuals just arbitrarily made up a torque value, knowing that those experienced 1970's american mechanics would figure it out.

well actually he was certified by Kawasaki as a tech in 73 when the Z1's came out ( and has 40 years experience in the business) so ur condescending attitude is misappropriated, also ur inference or arbitrailly made up values/ American mechanic ??? :whistle: WTF is that all about, and as far as manuals are concerned, they 're all perfect right ???? :blink: :( :silly: :huh:

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Re: Rear wheel tightening?

21 Sep 2011 09:46
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Manuals are not all perfect by any means but a for a bolt of that diameter, 100ft-lbs is sweet fuck all. If you can't tighten it without your wheel binding then you have some other issue you better sort out.
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Re: Rear wheel tightening?

21 Sep 2011 09:54
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yes sir will do

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