Seafoam causing carb problem??
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Re: Seafoam causing carb problem??
28 Mar 2016 17:18
Sounds like coils.
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28 Mar 2016 17:35 - 28 Mar 2016 17:48A clean white plug would indicate too lean?...not enough fuel in that cylinder?...hmmm ........................Miketri650 wrote: Ran it again tonight. Same story - 6 miles and then started to sputter. Pulled over and opened gas tank cap and then closed and started. Same story. I went a little further and then pulled over again and opened gas cap to where it was slightly open but wouldn't open all the way. Same story. By the time I got home it was barely running and died when I pulled into the driveway.
Pulled the plugs 2-4 looked normal - tan in color. Plug #1 looked totally clean - like it had not been used. Mean anything?
..."If your spark plug is white in color or appears blistered, that means something is making the plug run too hot. Check for problems in your engine's cooling, a lean fuel mixture or incorrect ignition timing"....
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1-all stock low mileage...
1 modified
1977 KZ1000 (awaiting resurrection!)
...and an old school Honda CB750 Chopper is next on my bucket list!
Oh...and a Pocket Rocket lol!!!
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Re: Seafoam causing carb problem??
28 Mar 2016 17:52
www.verrill.com/moto/sellingguide/sparkplugs/plugcolorchart.htm
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(2)-1976 KZ900B-LTD's
1-all stock low mileage...
1 modified
1977 KZ1000 (awaiting resurrection!)
...and an old school Honda CB750 Chopper is next on my bucket list!
Oh...and a Pocket Rocket lol!!!
1-all stock low mileage...
1 modified
1977 KZ1000 (awaiting resurrection!)
...and an old school Honda CB750 Chopper is next on my bucket list!
Oh...and a Pocket Rocket lol!!!
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Re: Seafoam causing carb problem??
28 Mar 2016 18:05
The #1 plug looks totally clean - basically bare metal. Doesn't match anything on the chart. Plugs 2, 3, 4 match the one that is normal.
I have not checked the coils. Would they tend to stop functioning properly if they get hot?
I have not checked the coils. Would they tend to stop functioning properly if they get hot?
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Re: Seafoam causing carb problem??
28 Mar 2016 18:08
That's one of the symptoms of them going bad.Switch coil leads and HT wires and see what happens.
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Re: Seafoam causing carb problem??
28 Mar 2016 19:29
Thanks - I will check that out. I also did a search on testing your coils and found a few youtube video's using a multi-meter.
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Re: Seafoam causing carb problem??
28 Mar 2016 20:05
That won't tell you how they're doing under load or when they get hot.
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Re: Seafoam causing carb problem??
28 Mar 2016 21:12Agree but it could show up a bad plug cap. cheap and easy to fix.swest wrote: That won't tell you how they're doing under load or when they get hot.
Steve
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Re: Seafoam causing carb problem??
29 Mar 2016 16:34
I had a 1980 750LTD with original coils. The thing ran great for the first 5 miles, then it would just get GUTLESS. I could get the RPMS up in neutral if I worked the throttle but it had no power - but it ran somewhat balanced, which was odd.
I tested the coils and caps cold, tested fine. I replaced the wires and caps first (I'm cheap). Still the same thing, once warmed up it ran like crap. I borrowed a coil from a local shop that I'm friends with the owner. Replaced one coil, same thing....replaced the other with the loaner and it was fixed. So the coil tested just fine, had no cracks or anything, but once it got warm and stressed out it gave up.
I tested the coils and caps cold, tested fine. I replaced the wires and caps first (I'm cheap). Still the same thing, once warmed up it ran like crap. I borrowed a coil from a local shop that I'm friends with the owner. Replaced one coil, same thing....replaced the other with the loaner and it was fixed. So the coil tested just fine, had no cracks or anything, but once it got warm and stressed out it gave up.
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Re: Seafoam causing carb problem??
29 Mar 2016 17:35
I replaced both coils on my sons 81 KZ1000 last summer. Similar problem. We were on a 200 mile ride and the last 60 miles or so it just popped and missed but he could go the speed limit. Put a set I had off of a CB900 on it's running strong. It was still worth checking wires and caps.
Don't fix it until it's broken.
John
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Also own:
2010 Harley Ultra Classic Limited, 2008 Harley low rider 71 CB350/sidecar
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83 KZ1100LTD
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2010 Harley Ultra Classic Limited, 2008 Harley low rider 71 CB350/sidecar
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Re: Seafoam causing carb problem??
29 Mar 2016 19:10
I am planning to run through the usual tests cold to eliminate caps and wires. If they test OK I will probably try and find a used coil that I can substitute.
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Re: Seafoam causing carb problem??
29 Mar 2016 19:49
How old are your coils?
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