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Re: Re:first start after new gaskets plugs and wires

06 Apr 2015 07:01
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bromz wrote: Well got the #2 exhaust to .110 so I think all my clearances are good. I checked compression and it is at 90psi. To damn low. I put a little oil in the plug hole and got 130. I won't have a chance to try to start it till tonight. Think compression will build with it getting hot once it's running?

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Re: first start after new gaskets plugs and wires

06 Apr 2015 16:16 - 06 Apr 2015 16:32
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Well went to finally start the bike. Advancer was 180 out so I drained the 3 year old battery there. Rotated the advancer 180 and charged battery and it fired and died. Charged battery fired ran 20 or 30 seconds touched the choke and died. Charged battery never fully usually 50% and never got it to start again. Damn. So it's prob a dead battery and a little bit carbs. Man not sure where to go. I've messed with the idle screw so much I'm not sure where I'm at now. I should have just stopped and got a new battery
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Re: Re:first start after new gaskets plugs and wires

16 Apr 2015 15:38
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Guys I'm f.....ing stuck! New battery, carbs cleaned and bench synced, advancer lubed, new wires plugs, and this damn thing will not start!!! Is it possible I jumped a tooth on cam timing. I checked and recheck several times before I installed the valve cover!

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Re: Re:STILL NEED HELP! WONT START!

19 Apr 2015 19:45
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Anyone have a complete list of ideas to trouble shoot this?

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Re: STILL NEED HELP! WONT START!

19 Apr 2015 20:13 - 19 Apr 2015 20:15
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Are you getting spark? I know you had it before but perhaps the coils are bad or you have a bad connection to the coils. Are you getting gas to the cylinders? I know this is basic stuff but sometimes it is over looked.

Are you running points or electronic ignition? Either way make sure the correct spark is hitting when it is supposed to.
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Re: first start after new gaskets plugs and wires

19 Apr 2015 20:16
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bromz wrote: Well got shims and got all within clearance except #2 exhaust. It must have been out for a while and getting worse. Back to the Kaw shop for some smaller shims. Here are the readings before and after

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Valve clearance is supposed to be 0.002"~0.004" (0.05mm~0.10mm).

Experience has shown that clearance may be up to 0.006" (0.15mm), especially on the exhaust.

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Re: STILL NEED HELP! WONT START!

20 Apr 2015 07:44 - 20 Apr 2015 07:44
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Valve clearances are all in spec. My measurements are in mm. I and running electronic ignition. So going by the manual it is not adjustable other than rotating the advancer 180degrees. Which I have aligned it as the manual has said.
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Re: STILL NEED HELP! WONT START!

20 Apr 2015 08:46
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#2 exhaust at .02mm would be too tight.
But should not prevent the engine from starting and running.

Which electronic ignition (stock igniter; Dyna-S; something else)?

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Re: STILL NEED HELP! WONT START!

20 Apr 2015 08:50 - 20 Apr 2015 08:55
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Do the timing marks on the advancer at hand look like any of the following examples?














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Re: STILL NEED HELP! WONT START!

20 Apr 2015 09:31 - 20 Apr 2015 09:32
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I got the number 2 exhaust to .110 as far as the advancer and mark I will have to take some pics and yes stock ignition
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Re: STILL NEED HELP! WONT START!

20 Apr 2015 18:26
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well guys I think the engine has to come back apart unless someone has an idea. Good spark, good fuel, bad compression! 60 psi across the board! what next?

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Re: STILL NEED HELP! WONT START!

21 Apr 2015 14:37
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Wow all this only to find out you had low compression. THAT IS ONE of the first things you check for trouble shooting.

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