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06 Dec 2015 06:27 #702108 by kaw-a-holic
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swest wrote: What makes you say the carbs are too big?
Steve

They are running really rich. Les Holt told me they would be ridable, they are. You have to roll on the throttle. I met a guy here in Mesa that has been restoring and modifying KZs since they were new on the show room floor. We talked for a bit. He said that through dyno testing that the best all around performance he found was running BS34s with a stage 3 dyna jet kit. It's worth looking into. As for the forks. I think the best bet will be a custom triple with a 2" drop. If I'm going to go that far I might as well do a new bottom tree also so I can move the forks forward about an 1" to gain back some turning radius.


adding and inch of fork offset is a lot. even a couple mm can have a big effect on handling. Not sure what your trail numbers are now but that much offset increase could easily put you in dangerous tank slapping territory. You're in good hands with Les, but i would for sure run down your geometry numbers before you commit to any custom triple dimensions


I just threw the number out there. I will have to do some research to see determine trail and rake numbers. I k ow I have seen it on here before.

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06 Dec 2015 06:46 #702111 by SWest
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Jon, are they rich on the bottom or all the way up?
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06 Dec 2015 06:51 #702112 by les holt
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Most gsxr stuff runs in the 30-32 mm offset, most kz's run at 60 mm so at that, you did loose about 1-1/8" of offset. Jumping up to a 45mm offset will give you about 9/16" more offset than what you have which will add to your turning radius and still improve the stability from KZ numbers.
I'm going to make a youtube video on measuring forks to order trees, that may be one of the 1st things I do after I get moved into shop.

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07 Dec 2015 03:54 #702235 by 531blackbanshee
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No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationsome cases these may help.


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07 Dec 2015 06:59 - 07 Dec 2015 07:03 #702270 by kaw-a-holic
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531blackbanshee wrote: some cases these may help.


leon


Thanks Leon I looked into these a while back but they won't work for a 98 GSXR 750 I think due to the adjuster on the top.


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07 Dec 2015 07:08 #702271 by kaw-a-holic
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07 Dec 2015 07:11 #702272 by davido
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Found these advertised locally. Euro150 a pair. Just emailed him to check if he has a set to fit the ZXR and how long they are. If youre interested ,ill ask for your bike. (Model/year??).









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07 Dec 2015 07:51 #702282 by kaw-a-holic
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davido wrote: Found these advertised locally. Euro150 a pair. Just emailed him to check if he has a set to fit the ZXR and how long they are. If youre interested ,ill ask for your bike. (Model/year??).










That would be great I am using 1998 Suzuki GSXR 750 Showa forks.

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07 Dec 2015 08:03 #702284 by StreetfighterKz
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kaw-a-holic wrote: That would be great I am using 1998 Suzuki GSXR 750 Showa forks.


Double check your years before spending $$.. '96+ Gsxr750's have a 25mm axle, no speedo drive and flat brake rotors. I think you have a '93-95 Gsxr750 front end.

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07 Dec 2015 08:08 #702285 by StreetfighterKz
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Just went back through your thread. Measure the OD of the upper fork tubes at the top and bottom clamps. It's possible you have a Gsxr1100 front end. The Gsxr750 measures 50/54 and the Gsxr1100 is 52/56 I think.

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