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10 Feb 2011 12:58 #429813 by 650ed
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My question was based on the fact that under compression the bottom length of chain will move closer to the swingarm and under rebound the top length of chain will move closer to the swingarm. This is fairly easy to check. However, if Larry is using the exact same setup including swingarm and sprockets and there is no contact between chain and swingarm you should be ok. If not, you'll find out when you hit the first bump. :laugh:

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10 Feb 2011 13:16 - 10 Feb 2011 13:19 #429817 by Stu Pidasole
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650ed wrote:

My question was based on the fact that under compression the bottom length of chain will move closer to the swingarm and under rebound the top length of chain will move closer to the swingarm. This is fairly easy to check. However, if Larry is using the exact same setup including swingarm and sprockets and there is no contact between chain and swingarm you should be ok. If not, you'll find out when you hit the first bump. :laugh:

all that also depends on shock travel setting, and or sag. i forgot how many miles Larry has on his bike. in any case the rear sprocket i baught was $20. once it wears i will put a steel/titanium one on the bike. by then ill know for a fact if i need to bump up rear sprocket diameter.
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10 Feb 2011 13:26 #429818 by Kidkawie
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all that also depends on shock travel setting, and or sag.


Sag has nothing to do with shock travel. Travel is built into the shock and by the stopper on the base of the shaft. But you have flat roads so no worries.

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10 Feb 2011 13:48 #429825 by Stu Pidasole
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so if my chain rides against the chain guard on the top of the swing arm it wont work?

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10 Feb 2011 14:04 #429830 by porchev914
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Kidkawie wrote:

Stu Pidasole wrote:

all that also depends on shock travel setting, and or sag.


Sag has nothing to do with shock travel. Travel is built into the shock and by the stopper on the base of the shaft. But you have flat roads so no worries.


What kidkawie means is that total shock travel is set by the manufacturer and is not readily changed, if at all. That said, your sag setting will take up some of the available travel. Remember, travel is measured at the wheel, not at the shock. To check your chain to swingarm clearance, remove the shock spring then reassemble the rear suspension. This will allow you to move the swingarm throughout its range and see what hits where ;)

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10 Feb 2011 14:11 #429832 by Stu Pidasole
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Thanks Adam.
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10 Feb 2011 14:15 - 10 Feb 2011 14:17 #429833 by larrycavan
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Stu Pidasole wrote:

650ed wrote:

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Chain looks to be running pretty close to the swingarm. Have you checked to see if it touches anywhere through the full up and down swing of the arm? If so you may consider larger sprockets. Ed

there is a 3/4" gap between the swingarm and the chain. also the bike has no weight in it. there will be a chain guard installed before its all said and done. Larry C. has the same sprockets i do. I dont hear him complaining. Go Larry! The nice thing is he has done most of the guess work. Once i got past the frame mods, it should run a lil smoother. ;)


There's a plastic chain guide that goes on the arm. There's no issue with the chain being to close to anything that I see in the pictures :)

If the guide didn't come on the arm, buy one. You want it on there for sure.
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10 Feb 2011 14:17 - 10 Feb 2011 14:17 #429835 by Stu Pidasole
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larrycavan wrote:

Stu Pidasole wrote:

650ed wrote:

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Chain looks to be running pretty close to the swingarm. Have you checked to see if it touches anywhere through the full up and down swing of the arm? If so you may consider larger sprockets. Ed

there is a 3/4" gap between the swingarm and the chain. also the bike has no weight in it. there will be a chain guard installed before its all said and done. Larry C. has the same sprockets i do. I dont hear him complaining. Go Larry! The nice thing is he has done most of the guess work. Once i got past the frame mods, it should run a lil smoother. ;)


There's a plastic chain guide that goes on the arm. There's no issue with the chain being to close to anything that I see in the pictures :)


:) Thanks Larry!
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10 Feb 2011 14:24 #429836 by larrycavan
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Here's the guide for my 96 arm
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10 Feb 2011 14:27 #429837 by Stu Pidasole
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larrycavan wrote:

Here's the guide for my 96 arm

yeah i need to buy one. the one that came off it was all fked up.

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10 Feb 2011 15:49 #429850 by 650ed
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Stu Pidasole wrote:

larrycavan wrote:

Here's the guide for my 96 arm

yeah i need to buy one. the one that came off it was all fked up.


Be sure to order a chain GUIDE rather than GUARD. When you said you were going to install a chain guard I didn't see how that was related to the chain touching the frame. Ed

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10 Feb 2011 16:58 - 10 Feb 2011 17:44 #429869 by Stu Pidasole
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Im just a lost cause ain't I ed? Lol. I said it wrong....if you though I thought a chain guard is what I needed to keep my chain off my swing arm....well...:laugh:
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