Tariff Charges

At the risk of repeating myself let me go ahead and repeat myself, "the bottom line is that the cost of those tariffs will be shouldered by consumers world wide".  

And who had the highest tariffs historically? 

hardrockminer wrote:

Coffee cost has risen worldwide but not due to tariffs.  It was a bad crop year.  A tin of my favourite brand has risen 50%.  And I don't know anywhere in NA that grows coffee beans.
 

I don't think that's the reason mine went up. Coffee harvest ended months ago and price of my coffee went up immediately when tariffs took effect. That doesn't explain why it went up so much though. But this is probably not the place to bemoan it. It is still much cheaper than Hawaiian bean, which is the only "home grown" coffee in the USA, so I'm not complaining (much).

SWest wrote:

And who had the highest tariffs historically? 

This thread is not intended to discuss the reasons for tariffs, the disparity of tariffs between different countries, or anything of the sort.  The point of this thread, is to understand how the recent changes in tariffs is going to affect us regular guys, buying motorcycle parts around the globe.  Keep on topic, please.

For Canadians, any US made motorcycles, tires or parts that are not compliant with USMCA  free trade agreement are subject to a 25% tariff.  I suspect many things are compliant but there may be companies that have not registered and are therefore not compliant.  There is no change to parts or bikes coming from other countries.  

Edited to add that there is an indirect cost resulting from tariffs.  There is currently a 50% tariff on Canadian aluminum and steel so any parts made from those metals will cost more.

hardrockminer wrote:

For Canadians, any US made motorcycles, tires or parts that are not compliant with USMCA  free trade agreement are subject to a 25% tariff.  I suspect many things are compliant but there may be companies that have not registered and are therefore not compliant.  There is no change to parts or bikes coming from other countries.  

Edited to add that there is an indirect cost resulting from tariffs.  There is currently a 50% tariff on Canadian aluminum and steel so any parts made from those metals will cost more.

As is the case with anything using imported components under the new rules 

While Monies is the initial concern. Hate to see these changes "pit" like-minded persons, based on where one was born, against one another based on thoughts of our/their government policies. Driving a Country based economic decision wedge between us. I've noticed thru the comments, persons have already stifled purchases based on this new, still ever-changing indecisive battle of policies. Personally i've bought plenty of parts thru my neighboring beloved Canada. I'm afraid that might dry up because they don't want the hassle or lump us all together as wicked. I can smell the woodpile smoldering, hoping it doesn't ignite. See Wookie, i kept it sane and lucid, ha.     

Wookie58 wrote:

hardrockminer wrote:

For Canadians, any US made motorcycles, tires or parts that are not compliant with USMCA  free trade agreement are subject to a 25% tariff.  I suspect many things are compliant but there may be companies that have not registered and are therefore not compliant.  There is no change to parts or bikes coming from other countries.  

Edited to add that there is an indirect cost resulting from tariffs.  There is currently a 50% tariff on Canadian aluminum and steel so any parts made from those metals will cost more.

As is the case with anything using imported components under the new rules 

No, not anything, at least not in Canada or Mexico.  NA has a free trade agreement that covers most manufacturing and so far it's being generally respected by all 3 parties...Canada, USA and Mexico.  But back in March Trump used his executive authority to impose a 25% tariff on non-USMCA products because according to him Canada and Mexico were flooding the USA with border jumpers and fentanyl.  Canada responded with reciprocal 25% tariffs on certain non compliant US exports including motorcycles and motorcycle parts.   

The origins of recent tariffs are definitely political but the impact as has been mentioned several times already is on us consumers, and specifically on our common passion which is motorcycles.  Personally I buy most of my stuff from US suppliers, because it's been at least equal in price and much faster delivery.  But with a 25% increase in price I will be looking at other sources like PMC in Japan or Zed Power in Britain, or maybe CMSL.  I've used them all in the past with good results.

Sorry HRM, I should have been clearer. My reference was to price increases on NA manufactured parts using imported components

Ahh yes, if it's manufactured in the USA where tariffs are applied to steel and aluminum.  (One of the major losers in the tariff war is Ford because their F150 truck is mainly aluminum.). But if the parts are made in Mexico or Canada they won't be directly affected by the US tariff to countries other than the US.  Then there are the international companies who will increase their prices because they can.  Zed Power or PMC may raise prices because their competition has had to raise theirs.  So far I haven't seen any sign of that but the chances of it happening are as great as the chance of gravity failing.

Update for Canadian motorcycle enthusiasts....just announced today....Canada has removed tariffs on all USMCA compliant products.  This means any motorcycles or parts produced in the USA will no longer be tariffed, as they were placed on the tariff list last spring.

HRM "Update for Canadian motorcycle enthusiasts....just announced today....Canada has removed tariffs on all USMCA compliant products.  This means any motorcycles or parts produced in the USA will no longer be tariffed, as they were placed on the tariff list last spring."

More to come.