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Sorry, I have not been on hte forum for a while and forgot abou this thread
My return is on the right hand side of the tank a bit behind the TBs so that the return pipe from the fuel reg is underneath it.
I will take some pics on the weekend.
I seem to recall that I have the bike set up as a 2 cylinder because of the wasted spark. There was an issue with the ecu reading the revs at 1/2 speed or was it double?Bugger memory is a bit shot
I run the gpz11 injector that are low impedance and have used both the flyback board and currently running resistors, both ways work fine. The flyback board is in my first ecu that is set up for ignition. The one I am using at the moment is running fuel only. 2.2board ms1 extra code.

Boostable wrote: I assume based on your configuration that you are using a single crank trigger or missing tooth setup correct? If so, then you are on the money with the waster spark setup. If your using more then one trigger then you have options.

Pairing on the batch fire is correct as well. (1 & 4 and 2 & 3) Would like to see a sequential option, but not supported for our config would probably just complicate things anyway.. lol

I am going to try to start by using the pickup off the negative on the coil for fuel only and leave the stock ignition in place. Is the 81 KZ1000 ignition considered CDI? if so I can not do this it will damage the optisolator. Somebody please chime in if you know the answer to this.

Steell, I am pretty sure you can only do sequential injection with a 2 cylinder with microquirt v3 since it only hase 2 individual banks.

Dave, anything you can remember or take pictures of would be great. Im hoping to leave a record here of my trial and error to make it easier for others

thanks for documenting this here jydog.

i am one of the people following along that has had an interets in f.i. but nowhere near the sack to try and jump in and set one up.

so seeing you guys do it is helping build my confidence.

some .

leon

531blackbanshee wrote: thanks for documenting this here jydog.

i am one of the people following along that has had an interets in f.i. but nowhere near the sack to try and jump in and set one up.

so seeing you guys do it is helping build my confidence.

some .

leon

How about this Leon.. You weld in our new gas caps and we will help you setup the EFI..

I second that notion!

jydog wrote: Steell, I am pretty sure you can only do sequential injection with a 2 cylinder with microquirt v3 since it only hase 2 individual banks.

I have a MS2 set up for sequential ignition and injection for a four cylinder, but you can't do it with a MicroSquirt. Seems like sequential two cylinder would work on the MicroSquirt though.

On the MS2 you just need to add a few components and run MS2extra code.

The full size MS boards are much more configurable than the Micro, and a lot cheaper, that's why I've been using them.

I was talking about MS2 and MicroSquirt (at different times) in my last post, so it was kind of confusing


On a different topic (so I don't get confusing again)

MicroSquirt also has dual channel ignition logic level outputs

Logic level being 5 volt output, what are you using as a coil driver?

Boostable wrote:

531blackbanshee wrote: thanks for documenting this here jydog.

i am one of the people following along that has had an interets in f.i. but nowhere near the sack to try and jump in and set one up.

so seeing you guys do it is helping build my confidence.

some .

leon

How about this Leon.. You weld in our new gas caps and we will help you setup the EFI..

hey you guy's know i am all about helping out.

shipping the tanks back and forth is my only worry .


leon

jydog wrote: Is the 81 KZ1000 ignition considered CDI? if so I can not do this it will damage the optisolator. Somebody please chime in if you know the answer to this.

Negative ghost rider... (someone please correct me if im wrong here)

No I dont believe that they are cdi. They run of of a vr sensor with a ignitor unit.
I ran ignition using one of the std vr pick ups using a machined gown 13 tooth chain sprocket with one tooth removed (12-1). Bike ran but not great, had issues with cranking and a miss at 3500rpm.
Enventually deceided that the problem was that a bike does not turn over at a constant speed due to the starter clutches being a friction clutch.
Since the Arrtu H has come up with an ignition set up that he has used successfully on his gs100turbo , and a gpz750 turbo with great results. He essentially uses magnets set into a wheel with one of them reversed which is read by a second sensor that is mounted the oppsite way round. He is a very clever guy Also makes a bike friendly version or a ms that is slightly bigger than a microsquirt but has added features on board like a built in map sensor etc.

Have a look here -

oldskoolperformance.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1664&start=28

Im with Steve on using the full size ms ecu, a you can fix it if you dont blow it up to bad and B youlearn a lot more about them when you build it yourself and c im a cheap skate and love to say I did it myself.

I plan on "should read will attempt" using the stock or dyna pickups and running the MS in Dual Spark mode and drive the coils directly from that. I should be able to use the stock advancer locked down or a button.

By all accounts I think it should work like a champ, but I have yet to test it at this point. Next week I will hook the pickups up on the bench and use the MS program to look at the inputs and see what it looks like. Will post back my results.

Boostable wrote: I plan on "should read will attempt" using the stock or dyna pickups and running the MS in Dual Spark mode and drive the coils directly from that. I should be able to use the stock advancer locked down or a button.

By all accounts I think it should work like a champ, but I have yet to test it at this point. Next week I will hook the pickups up on the bench and use the MS program to look at the inputs and see what it looks like. Will post back my results.[/quote


Can you point me to the instructions you are using and what MS firmware are you using?
I think you and I are both using micro squirt v3. I think picking up the signal before the coils is a better idea. I haven't been able to devote enough brain power to it lately. Work is robbing me of that and time

Sure.. no problem.

Start here... www.microsquirt.info/dualspark.htm

Input 1 triggers one injection channel (INJ1) and one ignition channel (Output 1), the other input (Input 2) triggers the other coil (Output 2) and injector bank (INJ2).

Section 1.a. and the input notes should give you most of the info you are looking for.



Also, what tuning software are you running? Megatune or TunerStudio.

TunerStudio has some great features including the ignition logger. You can see what your crank triggers are doing and see what the MS see's.

tunerstudio.com/index.php/tuner-studio

As another option you can use this software to look at the triggers and see what the MS is seeing. This should tell us if the standard pickups will work.

www.microsquirt.info/tachref.htm