1992 Kz1000P Sticky black Goo on spark plugs

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28 Sep 2015 14:32 #692367 by SWest
Your manual will tell you this and I'll add one thing. Don't bend the tabs so they make the needle sit crooked.
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29 Sep 2015 07:35 #692480 by hardworkinpd
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Ok, I got the tank and carbs on the bench *close* to the way they will be sitting on the bike.
Now to wrestling with the "Tube" Test*! Bending the float tangs so the are Flat is going to be a challenge!

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29 Sep 2015 08:16 - 29 Sep 2015 08:18 #692489 by jackleberry
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hardworkinpd wrote: Ok Jack I'm going to try and get the gas tank and carbs as close together as I can. What would you say could be the Maxium distance and hieght I could have between the Fuel Tap and the carbs to do the Tube Test and setting the float hieght.
Also when I get to that point how will I know how many mm I should adjust the float tang as compared to the tube reading?

You guys have been a Great help, Thanks! Kip


As close as you can get it to the distance it'll be above the carbs when installed on the bike, which is probably 4 or 5 inches... It doesn't have to hover directly above the carbs (that is, it doesn't matter how long the hose is), but it should be at the same level above them that it would be when installed.

As for the relationship to float height and fuel height, I'm afraid it's just an iterative try/fail process. I would start with 19mm from the gasket to the float measurement point, measure the fuel level, and tweak from there. If the fuel level is too high, you have to increase the float height. Try 1mm. If that lowers the fuel level too much, then go .5mm back the other way. If that gets them all within 2mm to 4mm of the seam on the fuel measurement, then you're good. If you're really concerned about leaking, aim for 4mm. (that's what I set mine to and I've not had any leanness/starvation issues).

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29 Sep 2015 09:48 - 29 Sep 2015 09:49 #692499 by hardworkinpd
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Hey Jack do I take the tube test measurement from the *Very Top* edge of the *float bowl*?

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29 Sep 2015 09:53 #692501 by 650ed
Here's how it's done on the Mikuni VM carbs (and probably most or all other carbs). Ed

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29 Sep 2015 10:10 - 29 Sep 2015 10:11 #692508 by hardworkinpd
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As per the drawing you start the measurement from the carb body where the over hang starts over the float bowl down?

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29 Sep 2015 10:18 #692509 by 650ed
Yes. You measure from the joint where the bowl and carb body meet down to the top of the fuel in the clear tube. Ed

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29 Sep 2015 10:28 #692511 by hardworkinpd
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Ok, I will start the measurement at the very point where the carb body *meets* the float bowl.
Thanks Ed!

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29 Sep 2015 10:54 #692513 by jackleberry
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hardworkinpd wrote: Ok, I will start the measurement at the very point where the carb body *meets* the float bowl.
Thanks Ed!

Adios, Kip


I use a 2mm zip-tie around the hose as my zero point. There's a little ledge where the gasket meets the carb body which the zip tie can be pushed up against. Blocks the view a bit but anything less than 2mm is too high anyway.

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29 Sep 2015 14:22 #692532 by hardworkinpd
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Ok, looking at the outside of the float bowls. From the very top of it where it makes contact with the gasket that mats to the carb body is like a casting seam. That seam is pretty darn close to 4mm from the very top of the float bowl.
I *Hope* that is correct.
If so adjusting the floats like Jack recommended, setting them off the gasket to 19mm, the tube test is showing me pretty close to 4mm across all 4 carbs.
Gosh I hope I did this right AND also I hope when I go back out to the garage the carbs aren't leaking.

Adios, Kip

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29 Sep 2015 18:08 #692558 by jackleberry
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hardworkinpd wrote: Ok, looking at the outside of the float bowls. From the very top of it where it makes contact with the gasket that mats to the carb body is like a casting seam. That seam is pretty darn close to 4mm from the very top of the float bowl.
I *Hope* that is correct.
If so adjusting the floats like Jack recommended, setting them off the gasket to 19mm, the tube test is showing me pretty close to 4mm across all 4 carbs.
Gosh I hope I did this right AND also I hope when I go back out to the garage the carbs aren't leaking.

Adios, Kip


Sounds good.

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30 Sep 2015 04:51 #692586 by hardworkinpd
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Well I should be excited in anticipation of completing this phase of getting my bike running, but to be honest I'm scared that something ain't gonna work.
You know, joining the military, being able to eat chili that burn the inside of your mouth worse than drinking battery acid, drinking Irish whiskey, having your prostate checked and changing baby diapers will *Make A Man Out Of You*. Well I'm going to add owning a vehicle with multipule carburators to that list!
Start to put the carbs back on today!

Adio, Kip

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