1978 kz750 smoke

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26 May 2015 19:45 #673942 by SWest

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27 May 2015 07:02 #673974 by Tyrell Corp
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oil ring broke in three pieces. One is in the crank case hopefully I can find it without splitting cases. Pistons look good cylinder walls look good.

I'm puzzled that an oil ring has broken and part of it escaped without damaging the cylinder wall... are the top compression ring gaps and piston / bore clearance within spec? No blue smoke or fouled plug, just white smoke and low compression from a broken oil scraper ring. :unsure:

Is this a 750/4? Pics would be interesting...

1980 Gpz550 D1, 1981 GPz550 D1. 1982 GPz750R1. 1983 z1000R R2. all four aces
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27 May 2015 07:46 #673981 by SWest
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I made a suggestion on the 81 KZ 440 thread above this one. I suggest it be done in this case as well.
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27 May 2015 08:58 #673993 by Soxx4u
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As I was pulling the cylinder off the piece of the oil ring fell down did not happen when it was running. I do not know bore spec. Everything looked tightas I was disassembling. Here are pics of what I have done

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27 May 2015 09:04 #673994 by Soxx4u
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27 May 2015 09:07 #673995 by SWest
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That looks like a secondary ring. Do the bore test and with new rings if within spec you should be good to go. A small piece in the pan shouldn't be a problem. The strainer and filter (if you have one) should keep it out of the oil galleys.
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27 May 2015 11:31 #674022 by KZB2 650
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Am wondering since you have it that far if you should pull the pan and look for that piece .... you could clean all the sludge and gasket material you probably dropped out at the same time..... and then you can wonder about doing something to the head.... I swear its never ending !! :laugh:

1978 KZ650 b-2
700cc Wiseco kit 10 to 1.
1980 KZ750 cam, ape springs, stock clutch/ Barnett springs.
Vance and Hines Header w/ comp baffle and Ape pods, Dyna S and green coils, copper wires.
29MM smooth bores W/ 17.5 pilots, 0-6s and 117.5 main
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27 May 2015 12:40 - 27 May 2015 12:42 #674033 by bountyhunter
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KZB2 650 wrote: Am wondering since you have it that far if you should pull the pan and look for that piece .... you could clean all the sludge and gasket material you probably dropped out at the same time.....

big +1 on cleaning the pan. You won't believe how much sludge will be in there. And you can "hose upwards" with brake cleaner spray and clean the underside of the internals while the pan is off.

You will want to get the valves turned and replace the seals while you are doing this, also the O rings on the oil feed pipes going up to the head. Guess how I learned that...... :ohmy:

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27 May 2015 12:58 #674038 by Soxx4u
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I have a full gasket kit. And valve guide seals. I don't plan on doing anything to the head. I'm broke to be honest. I picked this bike up to fix and flip.

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27 May 2015 14:12 #674042 by SWest
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Put the valve guide seals in and lap the valves at least.
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27 May 2015 14:46 #674055 by Soxx4u
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How do I lap the valves?

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27 May 2015 14:48 #674056 by Soxx4u
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I should be able to put the motor on its side to take the pan off and clean correct?

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