Valve Noise/No compression

I have a copy of the manual downloaded to my computer, but just plain missed that part about the cam chain tensioner. I took it off today and the chain still does not have enough slack. I can turn the 17 mm nut on the right hand side of the motor and the chain down not move, which I am thinking that the chain is not on the spocket of the crank. I am fell the chain vibrating when the 17 mm nut is turned. What is involved in checking to see if the cam chain is on the crank spocket ?

I would think that the chain might be doubled up. Don't think there is enough room to be off the crank.
Don't force the crank to free the chain. Could crack the case or damage the gear/chain.
I would wait until someone with more experience chimes in.

I am standing by waiting for more assistance. I was also wondering if I drained the oil, could the oil pan be taken off with the motor in the bike ? If I did that could I see what the chain is going on with the chain ?

A bit extreme. You would have to remove your main bearing cap.
Removing the head to get a better look would be better.
Have you removed the camchain tensioner before installing the cams?

I don't have the cams in right now. Trying to find out why I dont have enough slack in the chain to get both cams where they are supposed to be. I am trying to figure out the best way to find out what is going on with the chain around or below the craink.

take mirror and look down you should see what is going on (follow the chain with flashlight)

I tried following the chain wtih a flash light, but there is a rubber or platic wheel in the center of the opening and I can not see below it to see what the chain is doing. I will see if I have a mirror long enough to see below it when I am off tomorrow.

I finally got a chance to check on this again. I was able to get both cams in and timed correctly. I put the top chain guide on and took a 17mm and turned the crank to make sure that the marks on the crank and the T mark for the 1 and 4 cylinders were lined up, the I could only turn the crank about 1/4 to 1/2 turn before it stopped turning. I took the cams back out and took the head off and the #2 valve is bent. I have ordered another valve. Anyone have any ideas what I could have done wrong or setup wrong in order to bend the valve ? I checked the valves before putting the head back on and none of the valves were bent.

sounds like it was out of time. But usally turning it over by hand with a wrench you will feel the valves hit before they bend. But you use the kicker or really force the wrench you could or will bend a valve.

I turned the motor over with a 17 mm socket, not the kick start. I may have been turning the crank over too fast and the valve hit the piston and bent. I thought that I had the cams timed correctly. I the cam was off by of tooth or 2, would that be enough to bend the valve ?

You would feel the valves hit the piston and be able to back off. You wouldn't feel the opposing valves hit and by the time you did it would be too late. When one skips over the other valve the damage is done and I am talking about turning it by hand also. Just got to make sure they are in time. With a single cam overhead engine there wouldn't be a problem.

I don't know if being off a tooth or two would cause a valve to bend. You don't have to use the factory paint mark on the cam chain. You can remark. Make sure you cams are timed according to the book and you can't be wrong. Be aware setting timing up with the cams loose will change the timing slightly when you tighten and torque cam caps down. It's when things are back in place you need to count links and align up with the cam sprocket bolts, maintaining correct timing marks on the crank.

I believe if you use the bucket tool your are using, putting the tool in with the bucket cam lobe all the way down, inserting the tool and continuing turning the motor the same direction as the motor turns can cause a piston to hit a valve. What I do is turn the motor backwards to get the cam lob off the held down bucket. By turning backwards you move the piston away from the valve when getting the lobe pointed away from the bucket. IMHO. Make since?