Tore it down a bit.......

That is the first i have heard about shaving the dampers.
I do question how the dampers could aid to leakage. they are only rubber, so they are not that difficult to compress, considering the head is torqued to 37 to 42 ftlbs or so.
the dampers seem to be there to allow a minor amount of cushion or shock absorbsion for the cam chain . The same as the cam chain gears have rubber centers. so u would be providing a little more slack in the system, if u shaved them, however minimal.
u have chosen Liska components. my understanding of Liska's is there are no rubbers in them to provide shock absorbsion. Plus u shaved the rubbers. Is this wise for a street ride?
Food for thought.
Mark.

mark1122 wrote:

That is the first i have heard about shaving the dampers.
I do question how the dampers could aid to leakage. they are only rubber, so they are not that difficult to compress, considering the head is torqued to 37 to 42 ftlbs or so.
the dampers seem to be there to allow a minor amount of cushion or shock absorbsion for the cam chain . The same as the cam chain gears have rubber centers. so u would be providing a little more slack in the system, if u shaved them, however minimal.
u have chosen Liska components. my understanding of Liska's is there are no rubbers in them to provide shock absorbsion. Plus u shaved the rubbers. Is this wise for a street ride?
Food for thought.
Mark.

i m sure they will be fine .....

www.redlinecycle.com/Blocks.html


i didnt pull this stuff from thin airB)

kzrider.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&...ew&catid=2&id=248725


the thread it came from...hopefully link works

helloooooooo...is this thing on?..tap tap....got awful quiet
in here with some history..........:laugh:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I give up, wasn't me this time....

Old Man Rock wrote:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I give up, wasn't me this time....

its all good....i just wanted to show that people with just a tad bit more experience than most of us deem this mod to the dampers as legit....i didnt want you guys to think this was something i pulled out my ass....makes sense to me....

keith1 wrote:

helloooooooo...is this thing on?..tap tap....got awful quiet
in here with some history..........:laugh:

This must be directed at me. Sorry i wasn't waiting by my computer for your response.

As I look at the pic of the rubber damper, I see that without the damper in place, the oil would go directly into the O ring channel. Not a problem when the damper and Oring used in there stock form. The damper will compress and SEAL the passage to the oring channel. But they have reduced the damper size, to .030” to .040” below the surface.I can't see haw a mere .020" of rubber could prevent a good seal? They have also left the silicone in the O ring channel, below the top of the blocks surface. To me this will lead to the o ring channel filling with oil. I don’t see how this will be a good a way to reduce oil leakage. I gave this issue some thought when I built my 1st motor, and came to the conclusion that the silicone should be JUST proud of the surface. This will allow the silicone to act as the o ring did. What would be the point of adding silicone ,if it did not fill this channel? how could it serve any purpose at all? This is just my opinion .
Personally I find it difficult to get the right answer to a problem, on the net. There are often many dif opinions. I like to ask a LOT of questions, look at ALL the answers from a logical point of view and then form my own opinion for my own builds.
I try to pass on intelligent info to the forum hear, and often supply both points of view, if there is no real obvious , best way. This is not my info, as I have learned it from others on the net.
I hope I have not been coming across as a know it all.
1 thing about trying to get a point across on the net, is that u can easily be misunderstood in the way u are TRYING to come across.
I seems I have hit a nerve.
If u are bothered by hearing my perspective, I will gladly re-frame from answering your future posts.
Mark

mark1122 wrote:

keith1 wrote:

helloooooooo...is this thing on?..tap tap....got awful quiet
in here with some history..........:laugh:

This must be directed at me. Sorry i wasn't waiting by my computer for your response.

As I look at the pic of the rubber damper, I see that without the damper in place, the oil would go directly into the O ring channel. Not a problem when the damper and Oring used in there stock form. The damper will compress and SEAL the passage to the oring channel. But they have reduced the damper size, to .030” to .040” below the surface.I can't see haw a mere .020" of rubber could prevent a good seal? They have also left the silicone in the O ring channel, below the top of the blocks surface. To me this will lead to the o ring channel filling with oil. I don’t see how this will be a good a way to reduce oil leakage. I gave this issue some thought when I built my 1st motor, and came to the conclusion that the silicone should be JUST proud of the surface. This will allow the silicone to act as the o ring did. What would be the point of adding silicone ,if it did not fill this channel? how could it serve any purpose at all? This is just my opinion .
Personally I find it difficult to get the right answer to a problem, on the net. There are often many dif opinions. I like to ask a LOT of questions, look at ALL the answers from a logical point of view and then form my own opinion for my own builds.
I try to pass on intelligent info to the forum hear, and often supply both points of view, if there is no real obvious , best way. This is not my info, as I have learned it from others on the net.
I hope I have not been coming across as a know it all.
1 thing about trying to get a point across on the net, is that u can easily be misunderstood in the way u are TRYING to come across.
I seems I have hit a nerve.
If u are bothered by hearing my perspective, I will gladly re-frame from answering your future posts.
Mark

mark,
no problems here....my remarks are not aimed at anyone in particular....just wanted to show my reasoning for my decision to do what i did and hopefully add some info to the collective...i can be a bit of a ball buster in my writing sometimes....thats just me....by no means do i wish you to refrain from contributing your point of view and experience......keith

Well said Kieth...

keep it real.

keith1 wrote:

mark1122 wrote:

keith1 wrote:

mark,
no problems here....my remarks are not aimed at anyone in particular....just wanted to show my reasoning for my decision to do what i did and hopefully add some info to the collective...i can be a bit of a ball buster in my writing sometimes....thats just me....by no means do i wish you to refrain from contributing your point of view and experience......keith

No problems here either. Carry on bud.