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06 Nov 2013 14:07 #612258 by spdygon
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I had started a post over at Chassis section because I had questions. But now I have a 93 GSXR 1100 rolling chassis.
Will be swapping front and rear to my 1977 KZ1000A. GSXR Is apart now and started on the Kz.
Was hoping to do a bearing swap for the front end but found the
bottom bearing on the gsxr stem rusted weld to it.

93 gsxr

77kz1000A

1982 GS1000sz Katana ( #15...17K Miles)
1982 GS1000sz Katana ( # 297....7100k Miles)
1978 Kz1000 Z1R. 10K Miles1
1978 kz1000 z1r 27k miles
1977 KZ 1000 A ( Project ) 54K Miles
1976 Kz900A4 (Red)21K miles
1976 Kz900A4 ( Red)7500 miles
1974 Z1 900 project
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07 Nov 2013 07:06 - 07 Nov 2013 07:07 #612315 by 531blackbanshee
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are you going to do a stem swap to convert the front end?
can't wait to follow along as you progress :evil: !

leon

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

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07 Nov 2013 16:18 #612355 by spdygon
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my plan was to try the allballs bearings.....but the lower bearing on the gsxr is rust welded to the stem. if I cant remove it I will have to do the stem swap wish will take me longer to do because of the tools required.
is there a member on here that can do these for us?

1982 GS1000sz Katana ( #15...17K Miles)
1982 GS1000sz Katana ( # 297....7100k Miles)
1978 Kz1000 Z1R. 10K Miles1
1978 kz1000 z1r 27k miles
1977 KZ 1000 A ( Project ) 54K Miles
1976 Kz900A4 (Red)21K miles
1976 Kz900A4 ( Red)7500 miles
1974 Z1 900 project

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07 Nov 2013 16:21 #612356 by Stazi
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spdygon wrote: my plan was to try the allballs bearings.....but the lower bearing on the gsxr is rust welded to the stem. if I cant remove it I will have to do the stem swap wish will take me longer to do because of the tools required.
is there a member on here that can do these for us?

Yeah, they guy who posted above you. LOL

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09 Nov 2013 17:50 #612647 by spdygon
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ok so leon is the member......I will reach out to him if I cant get the bearing off.
work a little on the bike.

banana style...is that what its called....3'' longer then stock

as you can see......arm,wheel,etc on
all I need now are the gs bushings and some washer to make up the free play
I need to gain about 3/16 in washers to center arm.
If anyone has some ideas please let me now.

1982 GS1000sz Katana ( #15...17K Miles)
1982 GS1000sz Katana ( # 297....7100k Miles)
1978 Kz1000 Z1R. 10K Miles1
1978 kz1000 z1r 27k miles
1977 KZ 1000 A ( Project ) 54K Miles
1976 Kz900A4 (Red)21K miles
1976 Kz900A4 ( Red)7500 miles
1974 Z1 900 project
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09 Nov 2013 18:06 #612648 by KawiConvert
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spdygon wrote: my plan was to try the allballs bearings.....but the lower bearing on the gsxr is rust welded to the stem. if I cant remove it I will have to do the stem swap wish will take me longer to do because of the tools required.
is there a member on here that can do these for us?


Use a dremel and make small cuts till you are through it, then it should come right off.

1978 KZ650 D1 ~ Carb jetting: 107.5 & 20 & 4th groove with pods and 4-1 Exhaust

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10 Nov 2013 07:19 #612692 by spdygon
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ok.....will try a small metal wheel cutter but the bearing sleeve is super hard.

1982 GS1000sz Katana ( #15...17K Miles)
1982 GS1000sz Katana ( # 297....7100k Miles)
1978 Kz1000 Z1R. 10K Miles1
1978 kz1000 z1r 27k miles
1977 KZ 1000 A ( Project ) 54K Miles
1976 Kz900A4 (Red)21K miles
1976 Kz900A4 ( Red)7500 miles
1974 Z1 900 project

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10 Nov 2013 08:21 #612694 by KawiConvert
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spdygon wrote: ok.....will try a small metal wheel cutter but the bearing sleeve is super hard.


another option is to get the race red hot with a torch. Then take it all to get it pressed out. The race will pop off as the stem is pressed out the bottom. Heating the race will help break the rust.

I'd try the dremmel first.

1978 KZ650 D1 ~ Carb jetting: 107.5 & 20 & 4th groove with pods and 4-1 Exhaust

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10 Nov 2013 08:50 #612699 by Puffin
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spdygon wrote: ok so leon is the member......I will reach out to him if I cant get the bearing off.
work a little on the bike.
as you can see......arm,wheel,etc on
all I need now are the gs bushings and some washer to make up the free play
I need to gain about 3/16 in washers to center arm.
If anyone has some ideas please let me now.


Looking good :) You might be in with a very good chance of scoring the bushings and dust caps and any required shims from your local motorcycle dismantler. The dust caps have shims inside of them, have a look at your GSXR ones ;)

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14 Nov 2013 17:39 #613085 by spdygon
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work on the bike a little.....had a friend make me the pivot bushing. Still need to find the 80+ GS dust caps but i am able to move on to the install of the shock mounts.
Question....
do i take measurements from the gsxr frame as far as to the locations were the shock pivot arms bolt to and transfer the measurement to the kz?
also was able to remove the lower bearing that was rust weld to the gsxr stem....I will be ordering the conversion bearings...
any opinions

1982 GS1000sz Katana ( #15...17K Miles)
1982 GS1000sz Katana ( # 297....7100k Miles)
1978 Kz1000 Z1R. 10K Miles1
1978 kz1000 z1r 27k miles
1977 KZ 1000 A ( Project ) 54K Miles
1976 Kz900A4 (Red)21K miles
1976 Kz900A4 ( Red)7500 miles
1974 Z1 900 project

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14 Nov 2013 18:16 #613089 by StreetfighterKz
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spdygon wrote: Question....
do i take measurements from the gsxr frame as far as to the locations were the shock pivot arms bolt to and transfer the measurement to the kz?


You want to duplicate the suspension geometry of the Gsxr as closely as possible. Here's what I did on my Kz900 with Gsxr suspension.


And my Gpz with VFR suspension.


It not often that you have a complete donor chassis to get all the measurements from. So take advantage of Suzuki's engineering staff.

Later, Doug

1978 z1000 Streetfighter
1976 z900 Stripfighter (work in progress)
1983 Gpz750 Resto-Mod
1989 Vmax
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19 Nov 2013 19:13 #613505 by spdygon
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so work on the bike a little.......

pic of bike with rear installed and front end....waiting on the bearings


pic of the shock.......dont really like it.....going to see if a friend can weld some mounts for due shocks on the aluminum arm.

thanks everyone for the help

1982 GS1000sz Katana ( #15...17K Miles)
1982 GS1000sz Katana ( # 297....7100k Miles)
1978 Kz1000 Z1R. 10K Miles1
1978 kz1000 z1r 27k miles
1977 KZ 1000 A ( Project ) 54K Miles
1976 Kz900A4 (Red)21K miles
1976 Kz900A4 ( Red)7500 miles
1974 Z1 900 project
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