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05 Jan 2024 10:27 #893647 by zed1015
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I've tried but no go. I'd be careful not to thread the studs in too far. I'd test with the barrels and head to be sure you'll have enough threads for the top hat nuts. 
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CS900K studs were installed in the 82 motor.  Each cylinder stud firmly seats against the hole bottom when tightened as specified.

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You need to be wary when fitting the APE studs.
Just winding them in and torquing can result in too little threads showing for the head nuts.
You need to measure the height of the stock studs or the height of the head and block stack and set the APE ones to the correct height .
Many times the studs will achieve the correct height before they bottom out in the cases so need to set in with red loctite and left overnight to cure..
I always set the stud heights dry, mark the stud with tape at the case level then remove and refit with red loctite.

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05 Jan 2024 10:51 #893649 by SWest
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When I did mine I compared the stock studs with the APE (American Performance Engineering) studs before I used a tap to clean the threads. I didn't cut further. When I installed the head there was just enough threads showing to bolt down the head. I used the stock top hat nuts and they compressed the gaskets for a good bight and when I removed them later they looked normal. Whew 
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05 Jan 2024 13:28 #893661 by daveo
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Thanks, I will double check that when installing the cylinder studs in this motor.  What amount of stud engagement is considered ideal for the nuts?
 
Seems like there was about 1/2" of threaded stud length available for the nuts when fitting the head last time. 

 

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05 Jan 2024 13:35 #893662 by zed1015
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Minimum 10mm .
As a rule of thumb for any thread you need at least the equivalent of the width of the thread engaged in the nut.
So 10mm bolt = 10mm of thread and a 6mm bolt = 6mm thread etc.

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05 Jan 2024 14:02 #893663 by SWest
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The APE top hat nuts are taller so I assume it was to make up for more longer studs. 
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05 Jan 2024 14:45 - 06 Jan 2024 03:07 #893665 by zed1015
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The APE top hat nuts are taller so I assume it was to make up for more longer studs. 
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Yes! They are taller so they don't top out on the studs due to reduced deck heights as the result of skimmed heads and milled blocks etc.

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08 Jan 2024 22:53 #893799 by daveo
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This measurement was easily obtained, and no side-to-side movement of the crankshaft could be detected. 
Newly installed welded crank thrust bearing clearance:






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09 Jan 2024 18:41 - 09 Jan 2024 19:11 #893836 by daveo
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Speaking of tight tolerances...  






...they're everywhere!




And where the weld passes...







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10 Jan 2024 02:43 #893842 by zed1015
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Speaking of tight tolerances...  

...they're everywhere


And where the weld passes...




That doesn't matter as long as it clears.
2mm is a country mile in engineering terms.

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14 Jan 2024 08:32 - 14 Jan 2024 08:44 #893956 by daveo
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This is the front cam chain guide from a J motor.
Should I feel confident reusing it?







Former guide:
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