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04 Jan 2024 22:51 #893605 by daveo
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Making way for APE cylinder studs:

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05 Jan 2024 05:49 #893615 by DOHC
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Is that where the clutch basket goes?  Can you install the clutch basket after the cases are together?  I've never done this, but I have the impression the basket needs to be installed first?

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05 Jan 2024 06:48 #893619 by SWest
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No the primary gear won't clear the case. 
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05 Jan 2024 07:47 #893623 by Mikaw
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Personal preference for me is to use a thread chasers to clean the smuts out. I have found bolts to be sloppy when threaded into hole cleared with a tap. 

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05 Jan 2024 08:36 #893628 by daveo
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Personal preference for me is to use a thread chasers to clean the smuts out. I have found bolts to be sloppy when threaded into hole cleared with a tap. 
 

Is a chaser able to extend thread length deeper into the hole, or is a tap necessary to do that?


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05 Jan 2024 08:54 - 05 Jan 2024 09:51 #893632 by daveo
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No the primary gear won't clear the case. 
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When the 92027-1284 collar is removed from the shaft there is sufficient clearance for the clutch housing to be inserted at an angle into the case.




Is this not the case with other motors?

Assembly Vid:

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05 Jan 2024 08:57 #893634 by Mikaw
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Personal preference for me is to use a thread chasers to clean the smuts out. I have found bolts to be sloppy when threaded into hole cleared with a tap. 

 

Is a chaser able to extend thread length deeper into the hole, or is a tap necessary to do that?

No. They just chase/clear threads. If new are needed you need a tap. Flat bottoming type on blind holes

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05 Jan 2024 08:59 #893635 by SWest
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I've tried but no go. I'd be careful not to thread the studs in too far. I'd test with the barrels and head to be sure you'll have enough threads for the top hat nuts. 
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05 Jan 2024 09:02 #893637 by Mikaw
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No the primary gear won't clear the case. 
Steve

 

When the 92027-1284 collar is removed from the shaft there is sufficient clearance for the clutch housing to be inserted at an angle into the case.

Is this not the case with other motors?

On the Z/Kz up to 1980 the center of the clutch is integral and no way to tip it in behind the case. Clutch hub must be installed before cases are mated. Good to find that is different on the “J”

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05 Jan 2024 10:13 #893644 by daveo
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I've tried but no go. I'd be careful not to thread the studs in too far. I'd test with the barrels and head to be sure you'll have enough threads for the top hat nuts. 
Steve
 

CS900K studs were installed in the 82 motor.  Each cylinder stud firmly seats against the hole bottom when tightened as specified.

www.aperaceparts.com/tech/cs10mm.html

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05 Jan 2024 10:16 #893646 by daveo
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No the primary gear won't clear the case. 
Steve


 

When the 92027-1284 collar is removed from the shaft there is sufficient clearance for the clutch housing to be inserted at an angle into the case.

Is this not the case with other motors?

On the Z/Kz up to 1980 the center of the clutch is integral and no way to tip it in behind the case. Clutch hub must be installed before cases are mated. Good to find that is different on the “J”
 

Short assembly video:

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