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23 Nov 2015 12:49 #700151 by GPzMOD750
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Ok

I just decided to jump on the bike and see if playing with the choke made any difference. I grabbed my heavy gloves and helmet and my cyborg balaclava. besides that i had a fairly heavy letterman's type jacket with my company's logo on it.

So I pulled it out to let it warm up while i got my helmet and gloves and my Left side cover was missing. it must have fallen off yesterday during the ride and I didn't notice. I know I put it back on and it was nowhere in the garage. I was just freezing when i got back and pulled it in without really looking the bike over. This is just great! Nick, you wouldn't happen to have one would you?

Anyway, I ran it around the approx 12 mile route, about a 3rd of it freeway. I played with the choke throttle and gear/speed position and I'm not sure if i got it running any better with the choke or not, Maybe a slightly better. The exhaust was popping a bit when I was off the throttle especially towards the end of the ride, That's a lean condition indicator right? I didn't pull the plugs cause I'm still thawing out. It wasn't acting this way before i swapped the jets and you'd think it wouldn't be something I'd encounter since I supposedly made the mixture richer. Maybe this bike is just too cold blooded to run in this cold weather.

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23 Nov 2015 13:20 #700160 by Tyrell Corp
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Sorry to hear you lost your sidepanel...something about Left hand panels, much, much rarer than rights. The GPz750 side panel embem is very difficult to find now, I had to get one from USA.

Mine pops through the pipe on the overun, I like it. This is a closed throttle condition, you can tweak the pilot airscrews if you want to tune it out but it isn't too much related to your mainjet selection. Have you had it pulling cleanly to the redline before? (these are fast bikes, it is wise to build it up slowly as you get more accustomed to it)

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23 Nov 2015 18:06 - 23 Nov 2015 18:13 #700212 by redhawk4
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Sorry, don't have a side panel, that sucks, remember losing one of my 1000J shortly after I bought it, that was annoying,but in 1982 you could just go to the dealer and order a new one painted and with emblems for 30 English pounds, seems like a bargain now, at the time it was probably close to 10% of my take home pay :)

If it were me I would put everything back to the stock settings and work back from there. If we're not careful by the time we've messed with a few things, jets, needle settings etc. we have no idea where we are and also if there's some other underlying problem. IMO the bike should run somewhere near at 4500 feet with the stock setup and a 4-1. It may be a little weak, but not so bad that you would experience major performance issues. If it's still performing badly then the issue likely lies elsewhere in the fueling, as opposed to being an adjustment or jet change. Is the ignition performing as it should?.

I know people are using big jets with Pods, but those are effecting the vacuum characteristics and so forth, so is not a direct comparison to your situation and also they are not at altitude. I've seen the jet sizes some run in XR650L bikes like mine and wonder how, because at 5000 feet where I am, if I go more than one size over stock on the pilot jet it really bogs on acceleration.

Stock bikes ran very well out of the box, just a 4-1 would not mess that up too much, it likely would produce a lean condition that you wouldn't want to run with long term, but the bike should still run well, particularly at altitude, since you could already be one size higher than necessary just by running stock settings in Utah on a stock bike.

Popping if directly carb related, as opposed to air leaks, exhaust leaks and unburnt fuel in the exhaust is going to be a pilot jet issue, not main jets as the throttle is closed on the over run. If the mixture at that point is very lean then it will pop.

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23 Nov 2015 19:09 - 23 Nov 2015 19:12 #700229 by redhawk4
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swest wrote: My bike turns into a dog at 4500'.
Steve


Will it fetch a stick if you throw it :) Must be really scary when it takes off after a cat :) Must terrify the Mailman too :)

That's an example of what I'm talking about, if you lived here you'd be jetting it down, "it turns into a dog" because it's too rich and will begin to bog on the pilot jet size most likely , the main jet size is more forgiving because you are at higher rpm, where it tends to keep itself clear even if it's a bit rich.

1978 KZ1000A2 Wiseco 1075 kit
1977 KZ650B1
1973 Triumph Tiger TR7V
1968 BSA Victor Special 441
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1980 Suzuki SP400

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24 Nov 2015 02:23 #700249 by GPzMOD750
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I'm really pissed about the side cover. It was in excellent shape even if Iwere able to find it along my route it wouldn't be in very good shape any more. i have only found one so far and it's in Canada the A- hole wants $60 for it plus shipping and it's cracked! I'll start looking for KZ750L3, Z750P and KZ700A panels.

The ironic thing about it is that i wasn't planning on keeping the GPz panels on it anyway. I have a set of '82 KZ750E2 panels that I was going to use once I was at a point of finishing it to give a little more classic look. I still wanted to hang on to the originals just in case I do end up bringing it back to stock.

It will run up through redline in all gears except in 5th at full speed it will go up to 7-8k seemingly through momentum then just drop to 6 then not go any higher unless i down shift and coax it up but then it's still a struggle. I think maybe I'll put the 110s back in and raise the needles to see how that works.

It was popping just after I putt the header on and before I repacked the muffler. I opened up the pilots 1/2 a turn and it went away.

BTW iPads suck. I started to reply to posts last night like 3 or 4 times and it kept getting messed up so I gave up and went to bed.

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24 Nov 2015 04:46 - 24 Nov 2015 04:47 #700264 by SWest
I lost a side cover 20 years ago, turned around and watched as some a$$hole drove over it on purpose. I got a aftermarket one then a known thief stole the other one as I was waiting for my son at Mother's pizza after a extra class he had to take to graduate HS. He ditched those classes and didn't pass by 7 credits. Not only do I have cheesy side covers, the kid wanted me to help him go back to school. "You're 18, get a job and get yourself through school." I told him.
These covers screw on and I haven't lost one since. Every time I look at them I'm reminded of that time. :angry:
My new HP bike lap top is a PITA too. It jumps around, switches pages, they are constantly trying to sell me more things like memory, Apps etc. and upgrade to Windows 10 for free. This thing is about to learn how to fly. :woohoo: I miss my old 98 machine. :(
Oh and my KZ 1000 ST side covers. :dry:
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24 Nov 2015 06:12 #700273 by scubaanders
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If worst comes to worst I have two left covers, they both looks like #@$^ and I just droped them of at my buddy that is going to paint my R1 this winter. They both have cracks around the lower fastner, I gave him two kits of side covers and asked him to do what he could. I can ask him to try to salvage both. But it will in that case not be firecracker red.
I will keep you posted if he is able to get both fixed.
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24 Nov 2015 07:17 #700289 by GPzMOD750

scubaanders wrote: If worst comes to worst I have two left covers, they both looks like #@$^ and I just droped them of at my buddy that is going to paint my R1 this winter. They both have cracks around the lower fastner, I gave him two kits of side covers and asked him to do what he could. I can ask him to try to salvage both. But it will in that case not be firecracker red.
I will keep you posted if he is able to get both fixed.
/A

Yeah, if you could. I'm exploring a couple of possibilities but none have panned out yet. I'm going to swing by the local motorcycle salvage on the way home. If anything I might need the badge.

Apparently you should have him go above and beyond to save those since they appear to be almost as rare as a fact at a Obama press conference.

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24 Nov 2015 08:21 #700301 by scubaanders
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GPzMod750 wrote

If anything I might need the badge.


I am short on badges, but I talked to Bobby and they will salvage them all, didn't know they were that sought after.
Nice to see that your mod is coming along nicely.

By the way, If you don't like the Obama dude, send him back here! He had an astonishing impact on the traffic in Stockholm the last time he was here, he worked better that road tolls. :lol: :lol:

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24 Nov 2015 08:39 #700306 by Tyrell Corp
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The GPz750R1 was a genuine I year model, the later zx unitrack had those awful stickers instead of emblems.

Even the early GPz550 went through the D1 , H1 and H2 so these badges are much easier.

You can get repro badges from z1 and others. They are very accurate but polished rather than a brushed finish, I bought an 1100R emblem from them and brushed it myself carefully with abrasive paper, looks perfect.

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24 Nov 2015 14:10 - 24 Nov 2015 14:11 #700349 by GPzMOD750
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I went by the salvage yard, no side panels. Plenty of 750 twins though. If anyone needs some let me know :lol:

I did find some blinkers I could use. They were on a 89 EX500 but they weren't original to it. They looked like they fit but the stems were too long, they are probably from a later or larger Ninja.

All those that are on the "look out" for me I'm still interested.
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