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stonemaster wrote:
this tool is a POS, Followed all instructions to the T, wouldn't even calibrate correctly, Lame, i can do better by ear, NEXT ....
Many people have been successful with this tool.
If it wont calibrate correctly, there is deffinately a setup issue as it can be done off the bike. Just hook the four lines into the 5-way tee and suck on the last opening watching the liquid rise up till about 1/2 way. Plug the hole with your tongue and then calibrate the levels with the screws around 1/3 height of the instrument. Works great!
I used to do the ear thing until I got a Morgan Carbtune Pro, then I realized how bad my ears sucked. :laugh:
great trick I tried it a got the thing calibrated, works much better than trying to calibrate on the bike, gotta go to work for awhile and will have to wait till later to sync carbs but its a start, and thanx again guys
GL.
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Plug the hole with your tongue .....
Got pics? :laugh:
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Yes indeed, me as well... :laugh:
The Morgan unit ROCKS! :woohoo:
I thought I had my CR's all dialed in using the analog gauges.... Got my Morgan, immediately checked my syn vacuum readings...
No comparison... :blush: I was so off it wasn't even funny.... Spec is +/- 2mm.... I was anywhere from 5 - 10mm off.... :S
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The way it works is there are a restrictor placed in each line, and when I say restrictor, I'm not kidding. The restrictor reduces a 3/16" rubber line to about the diameter of a hair. Now I saw that and said "NO WAY", this hair passage will always be blocked. I went to calibrate the tool and it worked ok in a Chinese kind of rig type way. Two weeks later I go upstairs to get the tool, (oh yea, can't let it get cold so no keeping this delicate tool in the garage with the rest), get the tool out and of course 2 of the 4 restrictors are clogged so I try to blow compressed air through them. Kind of hard to blow compressed air through a hair passage. All the time the glycol would not settle so shake the tool as instructed. All this does is knock all the adapters on the dirt and still glycol will not settle, so I try to blow in the lines which always worked on the old tool. Well the tool is ruined now. Motion Pro sends me a new one and deja vu. I have no patience for a tool that is a piece of sheet, and they don't get any more piece of sheet than this tool.
321,000 miles on KZ's that I can remember. Not going to see any more.
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you can buy refill mercury for them.
I think this is no longer an option in most of the U.S.
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TeK9iNe wrote:
Plug the hole with your tongue .....
Got pics? :laugh:
:woohoo: :laugh: :laugh:
For the real quick-easy mechanic... :blush:
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81 Kawie Z1000 CSR
83 Honda VT750C A
85 Kawie GPZ900 A2
86 Zukie GS1150 EG
93 Yamie XV1100 E
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"until I got a Morgan Carbtune Pro, then I realized how bad my ears sucked. ".....
Yes indeed, me as well... :laugh:
The Morgan unit ROCKS! :woohoo:
I thought I had my CR's all dialed in using the analog gauges.... Got my Morgan, immediately checked my syn vacuum readings...
No comparison... :blush: I was so off it wasn't even funny.... Spec is +/- 2mm.... I was anywhere from 5 - 10mm off.... :S
YES, absolutely, way off - same as with my ears!
Forget the Motion Pro, the Morgan Unit is damn near FLAWLESS as far as I'm concerned.
For tuning mixture - Colortune and ears/rpm/engine whir combo
For sync - Morgan Carbtune Pro II
Done this on MANY bikes, and yes... even Hardleys, works fantastic!
Hells' Yeah!
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83 Honda VT750C A
85 Kawie GPZ900 A2
86 Zukie GS1150 EG
93 Yamie XV1100 E
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upon attempt to calibrate the first two shot fluid all the way to the top and would not come down no matter which way I turned the adjuster screw.
This happens when a proper bench sync has ot been performed, or there is a significant air leak on the low vacuum carbs that you are compensating with idle to run the bike.
Bench sync the carbs, then install them and make sure the carb to engine boots are sealed up good with some Permatx Moto-seal or #2 gasket maker, as these are gas resistant and last a VERY long time.
GL!
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79 Kawie Z1000 LTD
81 Kawie Z1000 CSR
83 Honda VT750C A
85 Kawie GPZ900 A2
86 Zukie GS1150 EG
93 Yamie XV1100 E
Lucky to have rolled many old bikes through my doors
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exact same for me oh well, I'm thinkin change the fluid, any ideas on a substitute??The old Motion Pro carbstix with mercury worked fine, the new garbage without mercury is junk.
The way it works is there are a restrictor placed in each line, and when I say restrictor, I'm not kidding. The restrictor reduces a 3/16" rubber line to about the diameter of a hair. Now I saw that and said "NO WAY", this hair passage will always be blocked. I went to calibrate the tool and it worked ok in a Chinese kind of rig type way. Two weeks later I go upstairs to get the tool, (oh yea, can't let it get cold so no keeping this delicate tool in the garage with the rest), get the tool out and of course 2 of the 4 restrictors are clogged so I try to blow compressed air through them. Kind of hard to blow compressed air through a hair passage. All the time the glycol would not settle so shake the tool as instructed. All this does is knock all the adapters on the dirt and still glycol will not settle, so I try to blow in the lines which always worked on the old tool. Well the tool is ruined now. Motion Pro sends me a new one and deja vu. I have no patience for a tool that is a piece of sheet, and they don't get any more piece of sheet than this tool.
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