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16 Mar 2015 16:53 #664670 by SWest

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16 Mar 2015 17:18 #664672 by Randombeat
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Tyrell Corp wrote: It is an expensive job in terms of labour and parts. Read up on some oil threads here :blink: , you might just try changing it and seeing if it helps?

Can a kicksatarter be retrofitted to a 1980 750 electric start engine?


just read this to realize, did you mean literally "oil" threads, or "old" threads?

can the oil, specifically type, weight and so on, effect the starter clutch that much?

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16 Mar 2015 17:21 #664673 by Randombeat

swest wrote: Try tightening the screws. The chain jumping bothers me.
Steve


well, that vid isnt of my bike, just one i found on youtube that sounds almost exactly like mine...

that chain jump is insane....

if i can get some free time i will try to take a video of my actual bike and the sounds its making.

work has been crazy. my company has been shut down by our main contract to do an internal audit of cpu hard drives, and ive been working 12 hour shifts for 9 days straight wiping hdds.

good money, enough to fix the bike alot sooner then i expected, but noooooo time to try anything.

and to beat it all, the weather here in TN is amazing right now, absolute perfect riding weather...

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16 Mar 2015 17:25 - 16 Mar 2015 17:32 #664674 by KZB2 650
Z1 can't get the main gear and housing either and their parts are after market (pins, rollers and springs) ..... plus they will need to special order all the other stuff. but I will admit I try and have used em for a lot of other things.

Could be loose screws, broken spring or springs etc from what I've read, you'll need the parts anyway after you tear into it ..... reg oil over synthetic helped mine for the summer but as soon as it got cold it returned so the problem is still there.

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700cc Wiseco kit 10 to 1.
1980 KZ750 cam, ape springs, stock clutch/ Barnett springs.
Vance and Hines Header w/ comp baffle and Ape pods, Dyna S and green coils, copper wires.
29MM smooth bores W/ 17.5 pilots, 0-6s and 117.5 main
16/42 gearing X ring chain and alum rear JT sprocket.
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16 Mar 2015 17:31 #664675 by Randombeat
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i think ive found the one way assembly and the sprocket new, also planning on getting the race/bearing and spacers.

im guessing ill need to do an oil/filter change at the same time, and oil pan gasket?

any other parts reccomendations to order?

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16 Mar 2015 23:38 #664700 by !Seymore

KZB2 650 wrote: reg oil over synthetic helped mine for the summer but as soon as it got cold it returned so the problem is still there.


What oil are you using? Brand, weight and any other pertinent info, please...

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79' KZ650-D2 [fsm] (Max)
83' KZ750-F1 LTD [clymers] (Kay)
82' KZ1100-D1 Specter (another project)
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17 Mar 2015 05:53 #664706 by Randombeat
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the previous owner had just changed the oil right before i bought her, and i am not sure what type brand or weight was used. I can try to find out however.

if its something that simple, i wouldnt know weather to be overjoyed, or extreme pissed LOL.

ive found a guy who has an entire lot of parts, internal engine/clutch parts aswell, literally several boxes of KZ parts. Hes offered me a tremendous deal, and it does include a starter clutch, but im so leary of using used parts....

maybe i could rebuild it though? the clutch plate aswell as a starter clutch rebuild kit, and still buy a new sprocket?

heres a photo of it, what do you guys think?

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17 Mar 2015 06:16 - 17 Mar 2015 06:19 #664709 by 650ed
It’s up to you if you want to spend time fiddling around trying to rebuild the thing and hoping when you’re done that it works. If it was my motorcycle I would not do that. I would simply replace the parts in question with new old stock parts (definitely NOT used parts) and ride my motorcycle. The starter clutch consists of the assembly (part number 13193-1062) and the starter sprocket (part number 12046-1032), and those are the parts I would replace. Why do it any other way?? Ed

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17 Mar 2015 06:22 #664710 by SWest
The rollers don't appear to have flat spots, do they? What about the sprocket? I was checking out The Old Kaw Man and he has parts for your bike at reasonable prices.
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17 Mar 2015 06:59 #664711 by 650ed
I believe the parts in question are still available from Kawasaki, so be sure to shop around for the best prices. Ed

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17 Mar 2015 07:08 #664714 by SWest
Being it is so deep in the engine, it would be wise to buy new. I am disappointed in Kawasaki for burying a high maintenance item in their smaller bikes. On the Z1/KZ900/1000's, one cover and your there.
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17 Mar 2015 07:45 #664721 by Randombeat
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650ed wrote: It’s up to you if you want to spend time fiddling around trying to rebuild the thing and hoping when you’re done that it works. If it was my motorcycle I would not do that. I would simply replace the parts in question with new old stock parts (definitely NOT used parts) and ride my motorcycle. The starter clutch consists of the assembly (part number 13193-1062) and the starter sprocket (part number 12046-1032), and those are the parts I would replace. Why do it any other way?? Ed


touche Ed. I def dont want to get back into this 3-4 months down the line. I may just buy the lot for all the extra goodies, so ill have them, but intend to get the new one way assembly and sprocket. No reason not to. thanks for steering me in the correct direction.

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