what do i need to hit 100 whp?

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07 Dec 2012 18:40 #561911 by donthaveakawman
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there really is no good replacement for displacement.

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07 Dec 2012 18:59 #561915 by lushbaugh
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forced induction baby... THE REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT

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the best advice i can give is dont take dnthavakawmans advice..

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07 Dec 2012 22:44 #561952 by wireman
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donthaveakawman wrote: there really is no good replacement for displacement.

How about a whole lot of displacement with some boost to go with it?
Oh wait Ive already been down that road! :woohoo:
Ill stay with the gpz1100 motor in the 750 frame idea,tons of power and still run it on pump gas B)

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08 Dec 2012 20:05 #562086 by Proxy
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21 Dec 2012 10:55 #563904 by davel
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Without forced induction, a very well tuned 750 will make a MAXIMUM of about 50 lbft of torque. To get 100rwhp you would need a head and cam combination that would give you that peak torque at 10,500rpm. Not sure if it's even possible with a 2 valve/cyl head...

Here's a guy who already tried some of this and has real numbers oldskoolsuzuki.info/uk_lee/Thebikes/GPz/GPzDyno.htm

The dyno test he posted shows 67rwhp and 45lbft of torque. Looks like the engine made about 58hp in stock form and he ultimately got it to put out 72rwhp and 50 lbft using a head with bigger valves and bigger cams.

On the other hand, the 750 Turbo made about 90rwhp stock. Minor tweaking to boost pressure could get you over 100 easily. From there, sky's the limit. Here are some guys that know what they're doing with a 750 Turbo www.750turbo.com/fastones.htm

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13 Jan 2013 04:29 #567107 by donthaveakawman
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kz750が工場ジェットキットは私があなたにエアボックスと排気用のK&Nフィルターを持つ別の8パーセントを与える見たと宣伝し、1980年に74馬力の定格され、ステージ3は高価な排気であなたに10〜15%の利益を得ることとなります74 X0.15でも90馬力にあなたを取得することはありませんポッドフィルター。
kz750 is factory rated of 74 horsepower in 1980 a jet kit advertised that I looked at will give you another 8 percent with a k&n filter for the airbox and an exhaust, a stage 3 will get you 10-15 percent gains with a expensive exhaust and pod filters which 74 x .15 will not even get you up to 90 horsepower.

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13 Jan 2013 05:14 #567109 by nads.com
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wireman wrote: 83-84 gpz1100 motor with a good header B)


A small kz head that flows 88cfm can produce 130hp.

A plain j head (not gpz) flows 84cfm stock and can produce upwards of 130hp

A 750cc head that flows what? 55 or 60 something cfm should allow 100hp?

Hey ask the elephant! NOt only he take out the garbage, he tells you how many shots

of nitrous you need as he bites through your tootsiepop.

Wire man brings nuclear weapon to squirt gun fight AGAIN! :woohoo:

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13 Jan 2013 05:33 - 13 Jan 2013 05:51 #567112 by donthaveakawman
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nads.com wrote:

wireman wrote: 83-84 gpz1100 motor with a good header B)


A small kz head that flows 88cfm can produce 130hp.

A plain j head (not gpz) flows 84cfm stock and can produce upwards of 130hp

A 750cc head that flows what? 55 or 60 something cfm should allow 100hp?

Hey ask the elephant! NOt only he take out the garbage, he tells you how many shots

of nitrous you need as he bites through your tootsiepop.

Wire man brings nuclear weapon to squirt gun fight AGAIN! :woohoo:


ちょっとDEEZは、彼が彼の最後の名前の背面を望んでいると呼ばれる 83 gpz1100 puts out over 100 hp, I don't know where you got your numbers from but somebody should put you through college :)
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13 Jan 2013 05:55 #567113 by donthaveakawman
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cherokeekid58 wrote: Just out of curiosity how hard would it be to turbo my bike? I have a TD04L lying around. but id imagine thats to big of a turbo.

And tracks are for racing, not streets.

Also do they even allow turbo bikes in the vintage race class? So i guess i wont hit 100hp. But how can i increase torque? The bike has pretty good pull coming out of a corner in 2nd or 3rd gear but top of 4th is where she just kind of levels off.

Like i said im building to to be a cafe racer, so light and manuverable with decent power. I dont like top speed i like the acceleration. So i guess i should of made the title, how to get 100 foot pounds of torque lol.

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The problem with a turbo is turbo lag, its going to take a while for the turbo to kick in and when it does you may have to chase down your bike. I would definitely go with a blower if forced induction were my route.

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13 Jan 2013 08:27 #567119 by wireman
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donthaveakawman wrote:

cherokeekid58 wrote: Just out of curiosity how hard would it be to turbo my bike? I have a TD04L lying around. but id imagine thats to big of a turbo.

And tracks are for racing, not streets.

Also do they even allow turbo bikes in the vintage race class? So i guess i wont hit 100hp. But how can i increase torque? The bike has pretty good pull coming out of a corner in 2nd or 3rd gear but top of 4th is where she just kind of levels off.

Like i said im building to to be a cafe racer, so light and manuverable with decent power. I dont like top speed i like the acceleration. So i guess i should of made the title, how to get 100 foot pounds of torque lol.

Cheers
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The problem with a turbo is turbo lag, its going to take a while for the turbo to kick in and when it does you may have to chase down your bike. I would definitely go with a blower if forced induction were my route.

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Have you ever ridden a turbo bike? :whistle: :whistle:

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13 Jan 2013 15:15 #567161 by Patton
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This pic is 2.4 seconds after Nads' turbo kicked in.





8.4 seconds later, Nads had chased down and remounted the bike, to resume lead position and win the race! :cheer: :cheer:

Not just anybody is capable of performing such feat.

Good Fortune! :)

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13 Jan 2013 15:23 #567162 by wireman
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