kz750 twin performance upgrades

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12 Sep 2012 19:35 #548302 by gumby prichard
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the plug cap is one of those ngk ugly tall ones where the wire plugs to the cap at about a 45 degree angle.

78 kz750 twin
77 yz125
91 cr250
99 dr650

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78 kz400 b1
89 yz80
99 klx300

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15 Sep 2012 14:20 #548864 by gumby prichard
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found a 255 shim from my secret connection at $16 a piece. :lol: will be installing my dyna s tonight. also bought some b7es plugs. decided to settle with the middle since some suggest b6es and some b8es.

78 kz750 twin
77 yz125
91 cr250
99 dr650

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78 kz400 b1
89 yz80
99 klx300

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15 Sep 2012 14:25 #548866 by Patton
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gumby prichard wrote: the plug cap is one of those ngk ugly tall ones where the wire plugs to the cap at about a 45 degree angle.


This may have already been covered, but if the caps have any built-in resistance, should use solid metal core plug wires (non-resistor plug wires).

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15 Sep 2012 19:57 #548912 by gumby prichard
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GOING TO ADVANCE auto TO BUY NEW PLUG CAPS(WITH RESISTORS) plug wires and fuel lines. if i can get my hands on an ohm meter i will test my coils before using them with the dyna s. dont want to burn up my new ignition!

78 kz750 twin
77 yz125
91 cr250
99 dr650

ex's:
78 kz400 b1
89 yz80
99 klx300

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15 Sep 2012 21:07 - 15 Sep 2012 21:08 #548931 by Patton
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Okay to run solid core non-resistance plug wires and non-resistance plug caps and non-resister plugs, simultaneously. Thereby having zero resistance in the secondary loop.

A disadvantage in having zero resistance in the secondary loop is interference with radio reception.

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15 Sep 2012 21:19 - 15 Sep 2012 21:23 #548936 by bountyhunter
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Patton wrote: Okay to run solid core non-resistance plug wires and non-resistance plug caps and non-resister plugs, simultaneously. Thereby having zero resistance in the secondary loop.

A disadvantage in having zero resistance in the secondary loop is interference with radio reception.

Good Fortune! :)


It also puts out a ton of EMI (electromagnetic interference) which can make digital meters read nonsense and can sometimes interfere with electronic devices...... like an electronic ignition system. I don't know what circuitry is inside a Dyna, but it uses very low level signals from the magnetic sensors so big hits of radiated interference could mess them up. I would use resistor caps or resistor plugs (don't need resistors on both).

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15 Sep 2012 21:43 #548946 by Patton
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Zero resistance in the secondary loop works perfectly in Z1 and KZ900 with Dyna-S electronic ignition, with no damage for umpteen miles over umpteen years.

When in doubt with regard to other more sophisticated electronic devices, would use one resistor component in the secondary loop, as suggested by bountyhunter.

Am satisfied with having always used an analog multi-meter (moving needle indicator), as pictured in the FSM's, which doesn't seem affected by EMI.

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17 Sep 2012 00:16 #549173 by gumby prichard
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bountyhunter wrote:

Patton wrote: Okay to run solid core non-resistance plug wires and non-resistance plug caps and non-resister plugs, simultaneously. Thereby having zero resistance in the secondary loop.

A disadvantage in having zero resistance in the secondary loop is interference with radio reception.

Good Fortune! :)


It also puts out a ton of EMI (electromagnetic interference) which can make digital meters read nonsense and can sometimes interfere with electronic devices...... like an electronic ignition system. I don't know what circuitry is inside a Dyna, but it uses very low level signals from the magnetic sensors so big hits of radiated interference could mess them up. I would use resistor caps or resistor plugs (don't need resistors on both).



well guys i planned on running regular ngk plug wires with resistor plug caps and non resistant plugs(b7es), or some of those 7mm spiral core dynatek ones(whatever spiral core means). Unfortunately you cant get just regular plug wires and plug caps at advanced or autozone anymore....i tried....any opinion on this setup?

UPDATE: MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH so upon installing my dyna s ignition system last night i took my timing advancer of and noticed the thing seemed so stiff. i pulled it off finally AND IT WAS RUSTED SHUT! the whole time (my power loss problem, my plug problem, my ignition problem) was all due to the timing advance unit was rusted in place. I threw some liquid graphite in there to loosen it up. finally got the stock rotor off put the new rotor on and the timing advance unit works like a champ now. probably wouldn't hurt to get some new little springs for it though. they are a little stretched.

I am currently waiting on the dyna coil so i can mount and connect everything. i have a feeling shes gunna pur though, now that i got all the timing issues straightened out. Once i get it all hooked up i will post a video. i have a friend working on a mini doc. for me. should be fun.

78 kz750 twin
77 yz125
91 cr250
99 dr650

ex's:
78 kz400 b1
89 yz80
99 klx300

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17 Sep 2012 11:41 #549222 by Patton
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Z1E lists Dyna plug wires (integrated caps) in both solid core and resistor types.

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18 Sep 2012 01:00 #549386 by gumby prichard
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i only saw the core...i didnt see resistor ones. but i ended up buying a pair or ngk wires and resisrtor cap off ebay for quite cheap.

78 kz750 twin
77 yz125
91 cr250
99 dr650

ex's:
78 kz400 b1
89 yz80
99 klx300

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