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18 Jul 2012 07:09 #536715 by peter1958
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its all about NADS some great drugs some boat anchors & much better than Where do I plug in clutch cable :woohoo:

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18 Jul 2012 08:05 #536720 by Old Man Rock
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Naddy, we've missed ya, glad to see you back.... B)

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az

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18 Jul 2012 09:02 #536726 by faffi
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[quote="nads.com" post=53671410's? I get your point. I'd put this bike up against a zl 1000 or v65 any time.


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I hate to shatter rose tinted glasses with facts. Well, not really :evil: AFIK, only PeeWee Gleason managed to get the old Magna into the 10s, and not by much. The Eliminator wasn't any quicker. Both had torque, however, and long wheelbases. So for average Joe, they would both outrun an R6. For a little while, at least. But for a drag racer, the R6 would win. Every time. Without breaking a sweat. Heck, even the 1995 Ninja 600 went a tenth quicker through the traps than the V65 Magna. The Sabre was slower, for some reason. And second year Magnas slower still.

Other than that, Naddy - do you read Norwegian? Sadly, I doubt it, but your writing reminds me of a local bloke (and I will not mention that he rides a Harley) which makes for enjoyable reading. Way out in space, but a totally different way of thinking that makes it stand out and be worth while reading B)

1977 KZ650B1
1980 F1 engine
B1 3-phase alternator
B1 Points ignition

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18 Jul 2012 09:36 #536728 by 650ed
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But Id walk right past it any day of the week to go for a sideways ride down the track in this 1 which is way cooler in my book ! B) B) B) B) B)


That pic of the '55 Chevy instantly transported me back to the late 60's. The guy that owned a local gas station had one nearly identical except for the writing that he raced B/Gas. It would fly. On one really rare occasion he put it on the street to whip a bigmouth's butt. The bigmouth had a nice new shiny GTO that he kept bragging would blow away "grandpa's old Chevy." Well the GTO was fast, but it looked like it was standing still when Jim opened up that '55. And the sound from those headers was pure music! Those really were the days!

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18 Jul 2012 09:40 #536729 by wireman
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faffi wrote: [quote="nads.com" post=53671410's? I get your point. I'd put this bike up against a zl 1000 or v65 any time.


I hate to shatter rose tinted glasses with facts. Well, not really :evil: AFIK, only PeeWee Gleason managed to get the old Magna into the 10s, and not by much. The Eliminator wasn't any quicker. Both had torque, however, and long wheelbases. So for average Joe, they would both outrun an R6. For a little while, at least. But for a drag racer, the R6 would win. Every time. Without breaking a sweat. Heck, even the 1995 Ninja 600 went a tenth quicker through the traps than the V65 Magna. The Sabre was slower, for some reason. And second year Magnas slower still.

Other than that, Naddy - do you read Norwegian? Sadly, I doubt it, but your writing reminds me of a local bloke (and I will not mention that he rides a Harley) which makes for enjoyable reading. Way out in space, but a totally different way of thinking that makes it stand out and be worth while reading B)[/quote]
Like Ive always said It depends on whos holding the knife at the gun fight! :woohoo:

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18 Jul 2012 09:44 #536731 by wireman
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650ed wrote:

wireman wrote:

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But Id walk right past it any day of the week to go for a sideways ride down the track in this 1 which is way cooler in my book ! B) B) B) B) B)


That pic of the '55 Chevy instantly transported me back to the late 60's. The guy that owned a local gas station had one nearly identical except for the writing that he raced B/Gas. It would fly. On one really rare occasion he put it on the street to whip a bigmouth's butt. The bigmouth had a nice new shiny GTO that he kept bragging would blow away "grandpa's old Chevy." Well the GTO was fast, but it looked like it was standing still when Jim opened up that '55. And the sound from those headers was pure music! Those really were the days!

Yeah of all the 4 wheeled projects Ive ammassed over the years Ive got 3 55 chevys that Id like to get atleast one done before I kick off! B)
I was all psyched about working on 1 of them a couple years ago but fixing everybody elses electrical/hvac/plumbing issues seems to eat up all my spare time especially this time of year! :sick:
But I still have visions of a 484" 409 chevy in one of my sedans turned retro gasser! :woohoo:

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18 Jul 2012 09:51 #536732 by wireman
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Ive even got my color picked out,just imagine it with a tube front axle and a set of old torque thrust wheels! giggitty giggitty

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18 Jul 2012 13:27 #536786 by APE Jay
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Yeah sure its cool in its own way I guess! :sick:

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But Id walk right past it any day of the week to go for a sideways ride down the track in this 1 which is way cooler in my book ! B) B) B) B) B)


Speaking as one who has experienced both worlds, nothing from the old muscle car days holds a candle to a modern vette.

My 10 GS will run 12:6 115 mph all day long, then leave the track and drive clear across the country in comfort and getting 26 mpg.

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18 Jul 2012 13:41 #536790 by peter1958
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18 Jul 2012 15:33 - 18 Jul 2012 15:34 #536823 by loudhvx
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Here's a cool one. ZX550A carb inlet. Fast forward to 3:30.

If you watch the whole thing, you will notice that for most cruising, the slide is all the way at the bottom. You can see the throttle movement in the that rectangular piece to the right of the carb opening.

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18 Jul 2012 15:49 #536826 by loudhvx
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wireman wrote: Ive even got my color picked out,just imagine it with a tube front axle and a set of old torque thrust wheels! giggitty giggitty

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Cannot argue with that color! :woohoo:
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18 Jul 2012 22:36 #536904 by LarryC
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Old Man Rock wrote: Larry is now known as "Larry's Additives".... :blink:


:woohoo: I was trying to get Otto out of hiding with that post Dave...... The real secret is in the coil mod :ohmy:

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