Harder Quiz

Hey Ace, I actually can't ride my Kawasaki 'cuz I haven't fixed it...yet. So, I ride my Honda CB750. SOHC 4's are not known for being as fast as Kawi four's but they are extremely durable. (also cheap, plentiful, and cool) Seems like the big jap four all got some good bikes- Yami XS 1100?

Only one answer to question #3 for me.

CBX1000

ace wrote:

question #3 if one could not ride and fix old kzs ,what make and motor would be second choice???? (excluding kawasaki) is there a block out there as well rounded for speed and durability?? im thinkin suzuki gs series ??? look forward to all ur replies....ace.

I'm in for the GS1000 suzuki. A lot of stock parts avilible and there performance level, is higher then the KZ's.

They are a two valve motor but some people still race. They still sell after market heads for them. They out handle the KZ's.........

6 Cylinders?:blink: :woohoo: Are you crazy? (just kidding)

question #3 if one could not ride and fix old kzs ,what make and motor would be second choice???? (excluding kawasaki) is there a block out there as well rounded for speed and durability?? im thinkin suzuki gs series ??? look forward to all ur replies....ace.

I really like some of the old euro bikes of the. BMW's, Nortons, Triumphs, Tritons.
Triumph makes some sweet bikes.

ace wrote:

question #3 if one could not ride and fix old kzs ,what make and motor would be second choice???? (excluding kawasaki) is there a block out there as well rounded for speed and durability?? im thinkin suzuki gs series ??? look forward to all ur replies....ace.

i would ride a harley.:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

to be serious i would want a turbo busa.

Rd 500 ypvs? Can you even get 'em in America?

kzz1p wrote:

ace wrote:

question #3 if one could not ride and fix old kzs ,what make and motor would be second choice???? (excluding kawasaki) is there a block out there as well rounded for speed and durability?? im thinkin suzuki gs series ??? look forward to all ur replies....ace.

I'm in for the GS1000 suzuki. A lot of stock parts avilible and there performance level, is higher then the KZ's.

They are a two valve motor but some people still race. They still sell after market heads for them. They out handle the KZ's.........

:laugh: Oh... do enlighten us all with some of your first hand experience in this.

kzz1p wrote:

ace wrote:

question #3 if one could not ride and fix old kzs ,what make and motor would be second choice???? (excluding kawasaki) is there a block out there as well rounded for speed and durability?? im thinkin suzuki gs series ??? look forward to all ur replies....ace.

I'm in for the GS1000 suzuki. A lot of stock parts avilible and there performance level, is higher then the KZ's.

They are a two valve motor but some people still race. They still sell after market heads for them. They out handle the KZ's.........

Have never owned a GS1000, but always considered it as a formidable opponent (stock vs stock). It usually received favorable reviews in the plethora of magazine tests, as did the large Kaws. Two perennial favorites through the years.

The seat was especially praised as being the right shape (flat) and foam density to allow comfortable long distance riding.

Something about the stock Suzy clutch was reportedly weaker than or inferior to the stock Kaw clutch, but can't recall the specifics.

Thinking V&H eventually changed over from Kaw to Suzy for drag racing. But this might have been when Suzy went to 4 valve heads.

But through it all, Kawasaki always seemed to hold its own against what I considered its first cousin.

I liked looks of the Suzy engine (especially the fins) as runner-up to the Kaw. And was intrigued with the first oh-so-futuristic Katana. But always stayed married to the Kaw.

Among us rednecks, it was rumored back then that the Suzuki was relatively inexpensive off the showroom floor, but more costly to repair.

Even today, street riders at the strip, Kaw vs Busa, neck and neck.

Good Fortune!

larrycavan wrote:

kzz1p wrote:

ace wrote:

question #3 if one could not ride and fix old kzs ,what make and motor would be second choice???? (excluding kawasaki) is there a block out there as well rounded for speed and durability?? im thinkin suzuki gs series ??? look forward to all ur replies....ace.

I'm in for the GS1000 suzuki. A lot of stock parts avilible and there performance level, is higher then the KZ's.

They are a two valve motor but some people still race. They still sell after market heads for them. They out handle the KZ's.........

:laugh: Oh... do enlighten us all with some of your first hand experience in this.

Hey Larry

Take a day off!

The two valve suzuki's blew the Z1's out of the water from day one and still to date. Why was that? Do you have any clues?


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As for my experience, I was working for a Suzuki dealer when they came out. I have rebuilt a few of them, tuned a few and ridden some of them. The real facts are, the GS750 off the showroom floor was faster then the kz1000. The GS750 can leave a Z in the corners, any day of the week.

sorry i disagree about the the gs750's being quicker or faster than a kz1000 two valve or 4 valve they were both slower having riden and worked on lots of them. they were a fun bike but definitly not faster. the aftermarket 2 valve head your talking about was originally built by mtc it was designed as stronger aftermarket replacement head for the gs 1100 4 valve motors for nhra pro stock. the 2 valve motors were allowed to be bigger cubic inches than the 4 valve motors also they had thicker castings and were designed with massive ports so they were cheaper to use in the long run then trying modify a tired used stock casting up to pro stock performance levels. now ward performance is building these heads for both suzi's and kawi's they are called the vortex head now. now it looks like star performance is in the process of build a massive 4 valve head that uses kz type quides and valve train, made out of billet alloy it will work with either an 85 or 87 mm bore.by the way gs1000 2valve engine pieces a really getting hard to find unlike 2 valve kawi and 4 valve suzuki performance pieces the engine was only produced for 3 years in a chain drive form then they switched to 4 valve componets. and yes i do know quite a bit about gs 1000's i won a championship on one in 2000 it was a fun easy to ride consistent bike that had almost identical mods as my kz1000 and was almost identical in speed and et's. i would definitly own another if given the oppourtunity.

Lots of supposedly factual historical performance information is floating around out there on the web.
And these few links barely crack the surface.
But are fun to read and evoke some pleasant memories.

www.suzukicycles.org/GS-series/GS750.shtml
www.dragtimes.com/Suzuki-Motorcycle-Timeslip-19031.html
www.motorcyclemuseum.org/halloffame/detail.aspx?RacerID=315
www.classic-japanese-bikes.com/Classic-J...ese-Motorcycles.html
www.xs11.com/xs11-info/articles/42-cycle...ne-january-1979.html

Good Fortune!