dry clutch kit

hardr0ck68 wrote:

Old Man Rock wrote:

"Funny how almost all serious racing engines have CR carburetors on them"...

Now Larry, be nice... That's because all the KZR guys have all them BS 34's in their rides... None left for the serious racing machines.... :evil: :whistle: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Why do you feel the need to be a total d-bag whenever someone has a different oppinion?

My daddy told me there is more than one way to skin a cat; your daddy must have told you "when you disagree act like a bitch"


P.S. I think carbs all suck donkey balls... you don't see them in any modren performance application FI is the only serious choice for a performance machine.

especially the 14,000 rpm fire breathing 650s rolling out of your door! :woohoo:

PLUMMEN wrote:

especially the 14,000 rpm fire breathing 650s rolling out of your door! :woohoo:

ziiiiinnnngg!

PLUMMEN wrote:

hardr0ck68 wrote:

Old Man Rock wrote:

"Funny how almost all serious racing engines have CR carburetors on them"...

Now Larry, be nice... That's because all the KZR guys have all them BS 34's in their rides... None left for the serious racing machines.... :evil: :whistle: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Why do you feel the need to be a total d-bag whenever someone has a different oppinion?

My daddy told me there is more than one way to skin a cat; your daddy must have told you "when you disagree act like a bitch"


P.S. I think carbs all suck donkey balls... you don't see them in any modren performance application FI is the only serious choice for a performance machine.

especially the 14,000 rpm fire breathing 650s rolling out of your door! :woohoo:

i read about this demon a while ago......does it exist yet?.....or is this just another hydroponically fueled dream that will never see the light of day.....just the lights of the grow room....?

Oh noooo that dream is gone (well maybe...) now I am on to 4 valve, water cooled head swaps. I just picked up some more parts tonight so my buddy can get cutting and welding.


Dry clutch.... I love the sound, but are they better for street applications? Now a slipper clutch that would be tits.

hardr0ck68 wrote:
P.S. I think carbs all suck donkey balls... you don't see them in any modren performance application FI is the only serious choice for a performance machine.[/quote]

when all is said and done, fuel injection is nothing but a finely tuned carb set up.
only people who are either

a. scared of them
or
b. don't know how to adjust/set them up.

fuel injection have less parts and is easier for the common man to set up.
anyone can program a pc to adjust their fuel curve.
kawasaki did go that route and then switched back. why?

rocco, i like you and your ideas but sometimes you really go off the deep end.
to call someone a douchebag is just wrong.
( and btw, please learn how to spell it if your going to use it. )

omr has put up a TON of info on everything from cam degreeing to carb syncing here.
i'm sure you have even read or downloaded his spec sheets.

bottom line is he has a bitching running bike he built himself and you have theory.

i like your ideas and how you want to be a trailblazer but lighten up man.
wtf.
do you only come here to argue or are you tossing ideas out and asking for advice?

you even called one of the best/fastest members here a limey. god damn man!

First, OMR is awesome, and he deserves respect.

Second, wy kan't anywon spel wright.

Third, Kawasaki went to FI and back but there is a reason that everyone uses it today. It not only makes more horsepower per cc because of it's tight control of fuel ratios but it also allows the control of horsepower when horsepower is overpowering the tires. New vehicles of any kind will never be released with carbs again because FI is better. In fact EFI is becoming outdated now. Direct injection is the new cool thing. It's already producing snowmobiles that are class leading in MPG and horsepower. The marine industry has been using it for years already. Just check out the new Ford Taurus SHO. Turbo and DI to make 365 HP out of a 3.5L V6. When has a stock producton carbed motor done something like that, and still made good gas mileage.

I think Lorcan knew I was ribbing him in that thread. I don't think any feelings were hurt. I will shoot him a PM on his forum and find out.

Have you seen the state of my 650 when I bought it? I turned my heap into a great running machine that I have put over 12K miles on since the rebuild. OMR is not the only one who can turn a wrench. My bike may not be finished yet, but I make improvements every year. And please don't way I am afraid to tune my carbs. I have a o2 sensor on my bike so I see the pitfalls of properly tuned carbs, if you don't believe me I will post numbers from the next 80* day to compare with a 50* night... carbs can't ever be as good as FI.

My issue is not what he and members like him add to the forums but what they take away. When folks continue to slam members at any given chance about different oppinion then eventually those members stop posting. Remember when wireman was on the outs, so he deleted his profile and left. Other members who have good info were also pushed out wiregorge for example.

A forum should be a place were people share ideas good and otherwise, share information and opinions. When people get hassled for doing just that then I will say something. I think LMR has some talent and time, no doubt... and if he dropped the personal attacks I would be cool with the guy.

Becker wrote:

First, OMR is awesome, and he deserves respect.

I give him all the respect he shows others and will continue to do so

Becker wrote:

First, OMR is awesome, and he deserves respect.

Second, wy kan't anywon spel wright.

Third, Kawasaki went to FI and back but there is a reason that everyone uses it today. It not only makes more horsepower per cc because of it's tight control of fuel ratios but it also allows the control of horsepower when horsepower is overpowering the tires. New vehicles of any kind will never be released with carbs again because FI is better. In fact EFI is becoming outdated now. Direct injection is the new cool thing. It's already producing snowmobiles that are class leading in MPG and horsepower. The marine industry has been using it for years already. Just check out the new Ford Taurus SHO. Turbo and DI to make 365 HP out of a 3.5L V6. When has a stock producton carbed motor done something like that, and still made good gas mileage.

The turbo has a lot more to do with it than the DI does. Nice feature to be sure but it's the turbo making the real power

That's why I'm making a 6 valve water cooled DI turbo 650 with a tunable intake manifold, pods, open header, ZX14 suspension. 300hp minimum....

There really is only one reason modern cars and bikes have f.i. --- EPA.

No I didn't drink the kool-aid

Larry it probably wouldn't surprise you at all that the single best bang for the buck/effort I remember was a CB700SC with a pipe and CR's . Near two stroke "hit" around 7.500 and very linear around the torque peak . The owner used it for a training/track day/practice bike. I was able to to eat a set of front pads and trash a Dunlop off the rear in just 15 minutes .What a barrel of fun .Sure it was no race bike but in a straight line it was a blast . Cr's on my '83 "used to be a kz thing" came a close second but it was a full $tupid race build in a light 4130 cha$$i$ .

Now back on topic (really?) I lived the curse of the dry clutch , everybody has to have one , all the cool kids do , thing . After a crash I didn't have the resources to duplicate another so second best was isolate the wet clutch from the majority of the sump and experiment with clutch material.

Take a good look at the clutch side . Making a dry cover just isn't that hard . It just takes time .

~kop