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13 Nov 2015 08:47 #698488 by kaw-a-holic
Replied by kaw-a-holic on topic Phoenix Fighter
Thanks guys, I'm going to leave the stud in. My rearsets that I got from Les Holt utilize this stud. I figure it been in there so longe it won't come out without some help. If it starts to move I will just put a small tack on the inside of the frame to keep it from coming out.

Jon
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Phoenix Fighter Project

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13 Nov 2015 08:53 #698489 by SWest
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I'd shave the bushing flush with the frame. 1/4" would be enough clearance. B)
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13 Nov 2015 20:04 #698570 by kaw-a-holic
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Got it handled, thanks for the feed back gents.

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16 Nov 2015 11:13 #698968 by kaw-a-holic
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Feeling disappointed, the hydraulic clutch conversion was an epic fail. Either the master or the slave cylinder will not push the rod to operate the clutch. :S .

The master cylinder is huge and brand new so it should not be the issue. If I take the master off the push rod it will extend but only a 1/4" at a time. Not sure where to start other than to buy a new one or just pay for the conversion sold on Z1

So of course the bike is still not streetable. I am switching back to the cable drive for now.

Jon
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Mesa, AZ
Phoenix Fighter Project

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16 Nov 2015 11:59 #698973 by davido
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Bummer. Sorry to here that. Any idea whats the problem? Is the resevoir big/small enough? Is it a problem with the spacing?
(Mine is still in bits. Still havent solved the stripped thread on the casing.)

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16 Nov 2015 12:05 #698974 by kaw-a-holic
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davido wrote: Bummer. Sorry to here that. Any idea whats the problem? Is the resevoir big/small enough? Is it a problem with the spacing?
(Mine is still in bits. Still havent solved the stripped thread on the casing.)


No idea, at this point I don't know how much money I am willing to sink into it. I used a Slave Cylinder off of a Suzuki 1000 because it was 2 bolts. Not sure if it is the Master Cylinder or the slave. M.C. is brand new and certainly big enough. For now it is going back to cable operation so I can get some ride time in. Although, we are getting a crap ton of rain this winter in Arizona. Better than snow I guess.

I was hoping you had yours done.

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Phoenix Fighter Project

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16 Nov 2015 12:16 #698976 by davido
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No,as I said ,mine is still in bits. Ive made a real mess of drilling out the hole in the casing so i have to sort that before I can mount the plate and work out the spacing. Im also not happy with the plate (thinking of cutting a new one). Im not looking to get on the road until spring/summer anyway so ive plenty of time to get it sorted,though Ive still got a ton of other stuff to do.
Anyway,if it works in the same way as a hydraulic brake,then the master and slave need to match.Mine should be ok as theyre both from the same ZXR but you have different parts . Maybe the master is too big,giving less pressure? (or is it the other way around??) Could you find/borrow one from a Suzuki 1000 Just to try It,see what happens?

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16 Nov 2015 13:08 #698981 by SWest
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Bummer. How much throw does the slave have as opposed to the master? They should be equal.
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16 Nov 2015 13:35 #698983 by floivanus
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Smaller master, easier lever effort. Kind of why if you use a 14mm master in a dual setup it locks up too easy.

10-12mm seems normal ish for conversions

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16 Nov 2015 14:55 #698994 by 79MKII
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Unless I'm not understanding correctly, you said the slave cylinder will move 1/4"? I don't think the stock pusher has more travel than that, does it?

Hopefully it's a bleeding issue...maybe air in the lines?

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16 Nov 2015 15:13 #699001 by SWest

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16 Nov 2015 18:01 #699024 by SWest
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kaw-a-holic wrote:

davido wrote: Bummer. Sorry to here that. Any idea whats the problem? Is the resevoir big/small enough? Is it a problem with the spacing?
(Mine is still in bits. Still havent solved the stripped thread on the casing.)


No idea, at this point I don't know how much money I am willing to sink into it. I used a Slave Cylinder off of a Suzuki 1000 because it was 2 bolts. Not sure if it is the Master Cylinder or the slave. M.C. is brand new and certainly big enough. For now it is going back to cable operation so I can get some ride time in. Although, we are getting a crap ton of rain this winter in Arizona. Better than snow I guess.

I was hoping you had yours done.


Cold and windy here. Supposed to be back in the 80's in a couple days. Crazy desert weather. :S
Steve

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