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17 Feb 2016 13:27 #711125 by kzharpe
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swest wrote: Could be fuel starvation. Have you tried running it on prime? Get a can of carb/choke cleaner and spray through the passages. The pilots are very small so a guitar string of strand off a wire brush should go through them to make sure they're clear. Don't hit rubber parts with the spray. Braggarts aside you may have gotten a very nice bike from a guy that was ether too stupid or cheap to get it running right. :whistle: A valve adjustment check should be done before jetting the carbs.
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Steve hit the nail on the head. This morning I drained the fuel, filled up with premium, and turned the petcock to prime. Ran like a champ for about 80 miles. However, it sounds like im still chasing a vacuum leak if its running good with the petcock on prime?

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17 Feb 2016 14:00 - 17 Feb 2016 14:01 #711134 by rstnick
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There are two vent ports on the carbs too, on carbs #2 & #4, purple lines, bottom picture.
There should be a length of hose on each, either coming up and over the air box, or into the air box:

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17 Feb 2016 14:12 #711136 by SWest
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Mine sit on top of the box. I don't think I would want them in the box. You need to rebuild the petcock. Your leak could be there or the carb holders are leaking. It's hard to tell. I got new ones and everything changed.
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18 Feb 2016 06:03 #711244 by kzharpe
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Is there an easy way to check for and find a leak in the carb holders? Also, do you have a link or part number for the specific rebuild kit I would need

swest wrote: Mine sit on top of the box. I don't think I would want them in the box. You need to rebuild the petcock. Your leak could be there or the carb holders are leaking. It's hard to tell. I got new ones and everything changed.
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18 Feb 2016 06:21 #711253 by SWest
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I resealed my old ones with :ohmy: Permatex, it worked for a while. I bought some from here.
www.diablocycle.com/Carburetor-c-67/
Pics of the carbs could help.
jetsrus.com/index.html
Another place for parts.
jbmindustries.com/
Careful buying on eBay. Some sellers don't care if you get the right parts, all they want is your MONEY. :angry:
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18 Feb 2016 07:00 - 18 Feb 2016 13:57 #711261 by martin_csr
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Carb kits can be a waste of money, since there's usually extra parts to cover a range of models.
aftermarket jet needles sometimes have the wrong taper & the jet sizes may not match the mikuni jets.

I would remove the carburetors from the motorcycle, then remove the float bowls & clean the little parts. then decide what you need. you might be able to read the numbers on the main jets. mine are 92.5. yours probably have a different number. I don't know if the pilot jets have numbers on them. stock is #15.

HF metric nitrile o-ring kit. or viton rubber kit. or eebbaayy. Z1Enterprises.com. o-rings. gaskets. etc.
you might be able to rejuvenate the top gaskets by soaking w LW silicone spray.
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18 Feb 2016 11:19 #711311 by kzharpe
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Am I safe to go ahead and ride the bike just setting the petcock to prime? Riding season is about to start and I don't have the time at the moment for some of these projects. I'm hoping I can just ride it till the weather gets cold then this winter I will check valve clearance/replace valve cover gasket and also pull/clean/rebuild the carbs

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18 Feb 2016 13:43 #711336 by kzharpe
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Yeah kinda the answer I expected. Looks like I'll be ordering a gasket knowing my impatient butt will ruin the original. Any good walk throughs on the forum? Did a search and could find anything specific

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19 Feb 2016 07:32 #711454 by rstnick
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The carb holders can be checked for leaks by spraying carb cleaner around them while the bike is idling.
If the rpms change, there is a leak.

KZ650 specific maintenance procedures can be found at kz650.info, link in my signature.

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