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22 Feb 2020 13:23 #819699 by 650ed
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My 1977 KZ650-C1 has the 8 ball type. I've never taken it apart and after 62,000+ miles it still works fine. Ed

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23 Feb 2020 02:23 - 23 Feb 2020 05:36 #819721 by gordone
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I lubed my clutch wirer yesterday, and identify some corrosion after the adjuster midway (with the cylinder 1 exhaust pipe).

Maybe these is the reason for snapping, water comes in here? What do you do to avoid? Have some three bond gasket inside to block the water?

These adjuster:

1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).

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23 Feb 2020 05:20 #819725 by Rick H.
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Good point about the water that I didn't think about. Many motorcycles have a rubber boot that slides on the outer cable and covers the junction for the upper and lower cable housings. I wonder if there is something out there that will work for this.
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23 Feb 2020 05:37 #819726 by gordone
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Rick H. wrote: Good point about the water that I didn't think about. Many motorcycles have a rubber boot that slides on the outer cable and covers the junction for the upper and lower cable housings. I wonder if there is something out there that will work for this.
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23 Feb 2020 05:40 #819727 by Nessism
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Nessism wrote: Steve,

Your top photo shows a ramp and ball type and the lower down photos show the helix.


The top pic is a helix too. You can see the tabs from the inner retainer.


Thanks for correcting me. My bad.
I had both types when rebuilding my 750 and chose to go with the ramp and ball version which was smoother. It's a little finicky to set up though in that you have to get the ramp in the right position during assembly or there will be no clutch. Going off memory but the arm on the mechanism needs to be at roughly 90 degrees to the cable coming through the cover.

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23 Feb 2020 07:52 #819731 by SWest
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Do you have a part number for the stock ramp and ball unit? As to not hijack this thread I started my own. I'd like to post one of them to provide more choices.
650 Ed, I switched the clamps. Thank's for the heads up.

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17 Mar 2020 10:54 #821087 by Rick H.
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gordone wrote:

Rick H. wrote: Good point about the water that I didn't think about. Many motorcycles have a rubber boot that slides on the outer cable and covers the junction for the upper and lower cable housings. I wonder if there is something out there that will work for this.
Rick H.


Please notify if you find something!


I kind of put this on the back burner until I was looking for something else. I did some checking and apparently these cable covers are actually called "gaiters". Makes sense I guess because that is what we called fork rubber covers at one time. Anyway if you nose around Ebay and the internet you will find several different types out there.

Also if anyone is contemplating purchasing an Easy Pull Clutch package from Z1- Enterprises they told me they should have them back in stock around the middle of April. Of course that is dependent on Corona 19 to a certain extent.
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17 Mar 2020 11:08 - 17 Mar 2020 11:12 #821088 by old_kaw
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Clutch cable problems in that area are not from water, instead from im-proper cable routing and exhaust heat. Normal cable lubing should prevent water to cable ingress.



THIS is a cooked cable, fo-sure. lol

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17 Mar 2020 12:00 - 17 Mar 2020 12:03 #821093 by gordone
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old_kaw wrote: Clutch cable problems in that area are not from water, instead from im-proper cable routing and exhaust heat. Normal cable lubing should prevent water to cable ingress.



THIS is a cooked cable, fo-sure. lol


Your photo is taken to low, the problem is where the wire from the clutch handel goes into the adjuster... not after the adjuster.


1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).

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17 Mar 2020 12:57 #821099 by old_kaw
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gordone wrote: I lubed my clutch wirer yesterday, and identify some corrosion after the adjuster midway (with the cylinder 1 exhaust pipe).

Maybe these is the reason for snapping, water comes in here? What do you do to avoid? Have some three bond gasket inside to block the water?

These adjuster:


I don't claim to be a rocket surgeon Gordone, but my pic is pretty close to where your pic was taken. Nether pic looks very close to the clutch lever to me.

If water is entering at the clutch lever, there are boots that can be had to cover up that area.

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17 Mar 2020 14:57 - 17 Mar 2020 14:58 #821108 by gordone
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My English is not exact enougf, full misunderstanding here :)

On my cable was water coming in here, please ser picture below, properly from pressure washing?


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17 Mar 2020 19:04 #821128 by Scirocco
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If the clutch cable length and clutch acutator get his final adujstment i heat up a shrink tube and seal the non-water proof part.....(easy 2 Cent fix).

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