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10 Aug 2018 06:06 #788602 by daveo
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Scirocco wrote: You have a oil carbon build up or a little fat air/fuel condition on yoúr spark plug colour.
How much oil your engine need on 1000 Km or 600 miles???


A rough guess, the engine averages 1 to 1.5 quarts in six hundred miles, maybe more depending on how hard I push it.

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10 Aug 2018 06:26 #788605 by daveo
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SWest wrote: Looks fat to me. What main jets are you using. Remember, get the mains right then go to the air jets, the needles then the pilots. If you're giving it too much gas, the rings can "wash out" and you'll start burning oil. Not long ago you had that coveted tan color. :unsure:
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Coveted but elusive the tan color be.
RS34 carbs have 125 Main, 17.5 Pilot, .7 Air Jets, and needle clips in third slot.

Thank you.

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10 Aug 2018 16:38 - 10 Aug 2018 16:43 #788638 by VTEC
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A quart in 600 miles is excessive. Top end, or keep topping off if it runs goid and doesn't smoke.

My original engine burned a lot . When it started pinging due to carbon on top of the pistons I blasted it with top engine cleaner, beat the shot out of it, and no more ping until next time around.

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10 Aug 2018 17:03 - 10 Aug 2018 17:26 #788639 by daveo
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VTEC wrote: A quart in 600 miles is excessive. Top end, or keep topping off if it runs goid and doesn't smoke.

My original engine burned a lot . When it started pinging due to carbon on top of the pistons I blasted it with top engine cleaner, beat the shot out of it, and no more ping until next time around.


Runs great! I have accumulated everything needed to ring it, including a crosshatch honed cylinder block and four sets of Std. size OEM Kawasaki rings.
Be a shame to take it down with the valves and cams working together so-well. Could change the oil and filter one more time...
Makes sense to "ride the piss out of it" some more, as SWest used to say. :laugh:

On the other hand, maybe it's a good time to sell it to an experienced rider who can appreciate a great handling powerhouse that "looks sexy too".

Pretty Ride Daveo Thanks for sharing !!!!

And who said shaft drives arent sexy ?? :ohmy:
They were wrong ;)
I do believe we have another great BOTM, What say you ??
Street Fighter LTD
Dave B) B) B)

Thanks again Dave!

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10 Aug 2018 18:45 #788644 by Street Fighter LTD
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Dave
Last time I had a oil consumption problem similar to yours it was old ( hardened ) valve guide seals.
Any way of checking if it smokes when hard on the throttle and lesser smoke when cruising at steady rpm ?
Have a bud follow you and watch your exhaust.
Not saying this is it for sure , but seals will do this too.
Dave

PS Still love the looks of your scoot


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16 Aug 2018 08:53 - 16 Aug 2018 08:58 #789016 by daveo
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SWest wrote: Looks fat to me. What main jets are you using. Remember, get the mains right then go to the air jets, the needles then the pilots. If you're giving it too much gas, the rings can "wash out" and you'll start burning oil. Not long ago you had that coveted tan color. :unsure:
Steve


Just realized the 17.5 Pilot Jets that I thought were installed were actually 20.0's. So the 17.5 are in there now along with 0.7 air jets, and a brand new set of plugs.
Runs way better, and that highly-coveted color is starting to come back again. :)



Thanks again Steve

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16 Aug 2018 09:24 - 16 Aug 2018 09:26 #789022 by old_kaw
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daveo wrote:
On the other hand, maybe it's a good time to sell it to an experienced rider who can appreciate a great handling powerhouse that "looks sexy too".

Pretty Ride Daveo Thanks for sharing !!!!


And who said shaft drives arent sexy ?? :ohmy:
They were wrong ;)

Thanks again Dave!


Now Dave, you know as well as I do, that selling that bike is not the right thing to do. Anyone that spends that much time and energy to make something that nice will go absolutely nuts without it. Take Steve's advice! Keep dumping oil in it and keep on riding it. :-)

Absolutely GORGEOUS bike, BTW.

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Located in the Saint Louis, Missouri Area.
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16 Aug 2018 09:42 - 16 Aug 2018 09:43 #789023 by old_kaw
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daveo wrote: It runs cool, revs up quick, and loves the upper rpm range. I'm addicted to zinging around at 6-7k as much and often as possible, which may explain where the oil is going.


O YEAH! My bike is like a caged animal trying to get out.. It LOVES the upper revs! Or perhaps, I should say it thrives! It does use a little bit of oil, but nothing excessive, no noticeable smoking on startup or elsewhere whatsoever. The upper revs contribute to oil consumption. A small price to pay for the therapy value.

I always gets comments at the gas pumps on how good of shape my bike is in for it's age.. much like me. :-)


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16 Aug 2018 10:14 - 16 Aug 2018 10:18 #789024 by daveo
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So much great advice...
At this rate, I may just have to take it with me.

:lol:

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16 Aug 2018 12:43 #789035 by SWest
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daveo wrote:

SWest wrote: Looks fat to me. What main jets are you using. Remember, get the mains right then go to the air jets, the needles then the pilots. If you're giving it too much gas, the rings can "wash out" and you'll start burning oil. Not long ago you had that coveted tan color. :unsure:
Steve


Just realized the 17.5 Pilot Jets that I thought were installed were actually 20.0's. So the 17.5 are in there now along with 0.7 air jets, and a brand new set of plugs.
Runs way better, and that highly-coveted color is starting to come back again. :)



Thanks again Steve


That's what I'm looking for on mine. Had it once but was stepping over a stage or two. I think I'm on the right track now.
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16 Aug 2018 17:53 #789071 by zukdave
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Carb jetting WILL NOT cause it to use oil if it's using oil it's valve seal's or ring's

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16 Aug 2018 18:20 #789075 by SWest
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Now the carb jetting is correct or close to it the base of the plugs are cleaning up meaning the oil burning is being reduced maybe even stopping.
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