What kind of power should I expect to make

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28 Feb 2013 18:19 #574590 by wireman
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So have you made any decisions on what youre using in this motor yet? B)

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28 Feb 2013 18:36 #574596 by wireman
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Havent had any in weeks,So anyway what direction is this engine build going? :whistle:

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28 Feb 2013 18:37 #574598 by KZJOE900
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Gentleman, you should air your differences in private ;) OK, you can now tell me to @#%@ off, LOL.

Current project 76 KZ900 (This was a Vetter model)
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28 Feb 2013 18:42 #574599 by wireman
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Im just asking which way the build is going B)

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28 Feb 2013 23:14 #574659 by racer54
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I stand corrected. I was always told that there was enough difference in the features of each engine that the two wouldn't work together but with enough machining I suppose anything is possible. I know you know more then I about these motors...

1980 LTD (changed over the years), 1979 LTD (being rebuilt), 1977 KZ turbo and various KZ's in various states of build. KLX110

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01 Mar 2013 09:06 #574713 by Powerstroke_fan
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Well the way it sounds. what it would cost to run a j model jug, it wouldnt be worth it. Espiccaly if you gotta run a gpz crank.

1980 kz1000B4 LTD- 1327cc 9-1 comp
Ported J model head
Psp-3x cams
RS 36s
Welded MK11 crank
Back-cut MK11 trans
MTC 2 stage lock up
Stretched 4-6 over running Hayabusa rear rim with 190 rear tire
Complete frame brace kit installed
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2014- ZX14R all stock for now

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01 Mar 2013 15:46 #574754 by gpz1170
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I've known of a couple of guys to use a GPZ block on a KZ bottom end, with a KZ crank ( you need to use a Suzuki flat roller cam chain ), with the sliders. The purpose was to see what it took to do it and if it was practical. I have a step by step discription of the process and it's several pages. For me way to much trouble not to use a KZ block.

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1976 KZ900
1978 KZ1000
1981 KZ1000
1983 GPZ1100

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02 Mar 2013 10:16 #574877 by LarryC
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gpz1170 wrote: I've known of a couple of guys to use a GPZ block on a KZ bottom end, with a KZ crank ( you need to use a Suzuki flat roller cam chain ), with the sliders. The purpose was to see what it took to do it and if it was practical. I have a step by step discription of the process and it's several pages. For me way to much trouble not to use a KZ block.

don


See...another approach to it :) Anything can be made to work with enough determination..

Larry C.

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10 Mar 2013 00:10 #576291 by Rowdymk2
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I know it has been a while since my update for you guys . Today I got a set of Andrews 9x cams , and for dirty cheap I love eBay might I add . I am next looking for valves 37.5 and 31 mm. Manley stainless steel . And I am also after a set of 36s but I would like some feed back on flat slides and smooth bores which would you guys prefer thanks to all you guys for the pointers I can tell this isn't some of you's first rodeo . I know this bike isn't gonna be to very street friendly but for cruising the races I think it will get some attention . And be known as a radical machine on the street scene around here .

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11 Mar 2013 06:28 #576479 by lushbaugh
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I prefer flatslides... and thats alotta cam.....

79 kz1000 ltd all apart
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11 Mar 2013 08:21 #576484 by Powerstroke_fan
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way to much cam. Man i would think if i was gonna build a motor i wouldnt just throw what ever i can find together. Not sure what all you gotta do with a 460 lift cam but. I know with a 418 lift which is what i am running, that you need to shave the bottom off the retainers and ret clips. Not to mention clearancing the head,valve springs,aftermarket shim under buckets.

1980 kz1000B4 LTD- 1327cc 9-1 comp
Ported J model head
Psp-3x cams
RS 36s
Welded MK11 crank
Back-cut MK11 trans
MTC 2 stage lock up
Stretched 4-6 over running Hayabusa rear rim with 190 rear tire
Complete frame brace kit installed
And Much Much more- SOLD

2014- ZX14R all stock for now

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11 Mar 2013 11:05 #576498 by turboking
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6X was .458 lift , 9X was .500 lift. :angry: I can't tell you how many heads I have had to replace the guides on because of street turkeys over camming their engines ...see the manufactures recommendations :S cam's like the 9x were recommended for strip use only. :huh: like others have said.......WAY too much cam.
see what the 9x does for guide life..... guides will have accelerated guide wear front to back from the big lift any brand :evil: big lift cams are guide killers, :angry: and then you wonder why your super duper head didn't hold it's valve job.... not street-able IMO :S . if your looking for the choppy big cam lope :pinch: pull some choke on it to get the desired cool effect :dry: I'm not bashing, just my .02 :silly: :side:
:whistle: :whistle: eerrrrr i'm rambling again...

9X in .500 280 deg. 28/72 .157 112 .004

2005 Kawasaki mean streak
2000 325 H.P. mcXpress turbo Hayabusa
1979 kz 1000 mk II ATP turbo
1975 Z1 960 cc Mr. Turbo
1975 Z1 1428 big block ATP turbo
1976 Kz900 1103 cc ATP turbo
1985 GS 1150E
1983 GS 1100E
1997 Suzuki Bandit 1200S
2001 Kawasaki EX 500 Ninja
1972 Honda cb750 (836cc turbo)
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