Re-Installing Camshafts Problem

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15 Jan 2008 19:29 #189500 by Little B
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Thanks Ron and Skyman! I'll give it a go again. At least the valve clearances are correct after changing the shims! :lol:

1981 KZ750-H2 LTD

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16 Jan 2008 09:42 #189567 by cafekz750
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I agree with RonKZ650 and Skyman. With my 750, I install the exhaust and then the intake cam. I have to check and double check that the timing marks are still where I left them previous to installing the cams. I have had them move while working on the bike. I also install the auto tenisioner and give the cams a spin with the cover off to ensure that everything lines up before buttoning everything up.

1981 KZ750H2 - V&H 4-1 pipe, pods, jetted, clubmans, homebrew rearsets, 18" rear wheel and more.
Parting out a 1982 KZ750H3 to fund future projects
2 other non-Kawasaki motorcycles

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17 Jan 2008 22:31 #189863 by Little B
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Its all done guys, thanks so much for the help!

Here is the Intake:



Here is the Exhaust:



And here they are together:



B)

1981 KZ750-H2 LTD

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04 Mar 2008 10:12 #198335 by jmrochelle
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I have timed my engine just like the photos above. When I try to start the engine it backfires through the carbs alittle and and makes loud pops in the exhaust system. Any idea what I may be doing wrong! I'm like about to give up.

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04 Mar 2008 10:30 #198338 by cafekz750
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There could be other problems as to why the bike won't start.

Please indicate the bike in your signature as well as the other work done to the bike. It helps us to make recommendations in regards to trouble shooting.

Post edited by: cafekz750, at: 2008/03/04 13:37

Post edited by: cafekz750, at: 2008/03/04 14:01

1981 KZ750H2 - V&H 4-1 pipe, pods, jetted, clubmans, homebrew rearsets, 18" rear wheel and more.
Parting out a 1982 KZ750H3 to fund future projects
2 other non-Kawasaki motorcycles

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04 Mar 2008 10:37 #198341 by Little B
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Did you have these problems before taking the bike apart? Could it be caused by something other than the timing? I'm just thinking out loud here...

1981 KZ750-H2 LTD

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04 Mar 2008 10:53 #198345 by bountyhunter
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cafekz750 wrote:

The bike could be 180 degrees out of time.


I didn't know bikes could be 180 out, since they spark at both TDC strokes. On mine, it makes no difference which TDC you set the cams to.

1979 KZ-750 Twin

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04 Mar 2008 10:59 #198349 by NickW900LTD
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my cam timing wasnt exactly on according to the manual but my bike still runs like it did before i tore it down. Waht i mean is that the timing marks on the points didnt exactly line up at the t mark, it was off by about an 1/8 of an inch, but the cam marks still lined up with the top of the head.

Nick

1976 KZ900 LTD (sold)
1977 KZ1000 LTD
1978 KZ1000 A2A

Pierceton, Indiana USA

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04 Mar 2008 11:05 #198351 by cafekz750
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Bountyhunter,
I modified my post. I am thinking about one of my other bikes where this happened to me. Jumped the gun.

1981 KZ750H2 - V&H 4-1 pipe, pods, jetted, clubmans, homebrew rearsets, 18" rear wheel and more.
Parting out a 1982 KZ750H3 to fund future projects
2 other non-Kawasaki motorcycles

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04 Mar 2008 13:20 #198382 by bountyhunter
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cafekz750 wrote:

Bountyhunter,
I modified my post. I am thinking about one of my other bikes where this happened to me. Jumped the gun.


Thats OK, I was remembering because of the dumb thing I did: first time I had to take the head off my 750 twin for a valve job, I reinstalled my camshafts making very sure to get them JUST RIGHT on the marks..... and just before I was going to put the valve cover back on I double checked them by rotating to TDC and found they were 180 degrees off! I could not figure out how I missed by that much. I was scared I had banged a valve, but I immediately unbolted the cams and set them "right" ....

Some time later I realized that they were right either way, because the camshaft rotates only once for every two turns of the crank so I could always find the "180 out" spot for the cams by rotating to the next TDC.... on a twin, both pistons are at the top on either TDC. Live and learn.

I do believe on the four cylinder bikes you have to make sure and get the TDC for the correct set of pistons (I believe it's #1 and #4?) or the cams will be wrong.

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1979 KZ-750 Twin

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04 Mar 2008 13:20 #198384 by bountyhunter
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duplicate post

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04 Mar 2008 13:20 #198385 by bountyhunter
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triplicate post.... never saw that before

Post edited by: bountyhunter, at: 2008/03/04 16:21

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