Hog vs Kawasaki

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18 Jun 2015 21:03 - 18 Jun 2015 21:15 #677214 by KZQ
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Hey Jeff,
You're free to state your opinions, to a point, but I'm having a tough time seeing how your comment adds anything meaningful to KZR. As a matter of fact I think you just insulted a whole bunch of KZR members. I'm available if you need some suggestions on how to get along here.
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18 Jun 2015 21:12 #677216 by SWest

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18 Jun 2015 22:12 #677223 by Tyler
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I happen to like a nice Harley, such as this beauty from 1955...

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Not fast at all, but unbelievably cool. A part of American monocycle history.

I can't understand for the life of me why they are still trying SOOOO hard to build this exact same bike today... minus the suicide clutch anyways...

If I knew what I was doing all the time life wouldn't be any fun.

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18 Jun 2015 22:28 #677224 by Tyler
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Or an early Pan head... If ever put a Harley together this would be it. I may have to sell my house to do it though.... :pinch:


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If I knew what I was doing all the time life wouldn't be any fun.

'80 KZ650 E 700cc, dyna ignition and coils, frame up restoration, daily driver
'81 KZ1300 A3 full restoration, custom big bore pistons, 1400cc 6 cylinder super bike
"77 KZ650 B1 - Barn Find, work in progeress
"74 Yamaha DT 400 Enduro
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19 Jun 2015 00:03 - 19 Jun 2015 00:05 #677229 by DoctoRot
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Xl ED wrote: A vendor on my Sportster forum is making 125+hp out of a sportster engine. You can hop them up. It just takes $$$.

And imo the home depot guy was full of sh*t.


Its possible to make anything fast if you got the cash. But I think a 883 sportster boosted to 1200 with 125hp would be a ticking time bomb. Harley's can be fast but you have to drop some serious coin to get them there.
I was in a harley dealership a couple of weeks ago buying wheel weights and i was astounded by the amount of bolt on performance shit they offer. Seems like they make their bikes criminally slow so folks will spring for some go fast parts.
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19 Jun 2015 04:25 #677237 by Xl ED
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DoctoRot wrote:

Xl ED wrote: A vendor on my Sportster forum is making 125+hp out of a sportster engine. You can hop them up. It just takes $$$.

And imo the home depot guy was full of sh*t.


Its possible to make anything fast if you got the cash. But I think a 883 sportster boosted to 1200 with 125hp would be a ticking time bomb. Harley's can be fast but you have to drop some serious coin to get them there.
I was in a harley dealership a couple of weeks ago buying wheel weights and i was astounded by the amount of bolt on performance shit they offer. Seems like they make their bikes criminally slow so folks will spring for some go fast parts.


That's exactly what they do!!!lol!!! In regards to the 125hp, these guys are doing it with reliability in mind. Some of their more moderate builds (100+hp) have upwards of 50000 miles on them. Check them out if you like. Hammer Performance. Guy's name is Aaron. He will answer any question you might have.

Jeff, sorry you feel that way about me. Guess we can't be friends. Your loss buddy.

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19 Jun 2015 04:49 #677238 by SWest
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I've said it before. There's a certain 'Tude" that goes with owning a Hog. Not all have it but you wouldn't know that by the way you're treated on the road or at the local Pub. Riding into town only 10% will acknowledge my even being there. To be fair even the new "Crotch Rocket" riders seem to have their nose in the air. Id be willing to bet most of them are new bike owners. When I tell them I've owned this bike for 40 years I get the "fish eye." They just don't understand.
Their loss
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19 Jun 2015 05:30 #677242 by toolmaker
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A few years ago I was helping a guy put a supercharger on a hog. Don't know if he ever did, but if so, it would have to be very fast in the quarter mile. He just kept blowing it up, fixing it and blowing it up again.

I live near Portland, Oregon and my rider is a '76 KZ900 I bought new. I'm also in the process of restoring another one and a '73 Z1.

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19 Jun 2015 05:52 #677243 by Tyrell Corp
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BTW harleys give head to live stock and so do most of the folks that ride them

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: So articulate and succinct, you have a way with words !

Lighten up guys, that is actually quite funny. They probablly say that about us over on the hog forums.

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19 Jun 2015 06:14 - 19 Jun 2015 06:42 #677247 by KZQ
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Have you read the rules? I'm not particularly fond of Harleys, and their riders who think the two wheeled world is turned by a Harley, myself, but there are lots of ways to express and opinion without spewing personal insults.
Tyrell speculated: " ...They probablly say that about us over on the hog forums."
I doubt that most folks here care about what may be standard fare on the hog forums. If that's really the case, would our stooping to the same tactics add anything to KZR?
Bill

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1968 BSA 441 Shooting Star, 1970 BSA 650 Lightning, 1974 W3, 1976 KZ900, 1979 KZ750 Twin, 1979 KZ750 Twin Trike, 1981 KZ1300, 1982 KZ1100 Spectre, 2000 Valkyrie, 2009 Yamaha Roadliner S. 1983 GL 1100
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19 Jun 2015 06:42 #677250 by GregZ
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jeffasaki wrote: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FAST HARLEY


yep there all boat anchors
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I've seen some pretty fast big twins so never say never

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19 Jun 2015 06:45 #677251 by monkeydoodle
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I'm not a fan of the Harley Corp. or the riders that go with it, I know it's a generalised statement, however I so love the old Pan's, Knucks and Shovels - infact when I built my chop I held off until I could use a HD motor, I was going to wait for a Buell but they were pretty steep in price as were the other big twins (so much for living in the UK) so I settled on a sporty 12, what I need to do on it when I ride it I don't need speed it's just half throttle and taking it all in, if I want to go fast I have my Fazer 1000 with a nice little kit on it that kicks out the horses, once I finish the KZ750 then I'll be content as I'll have all manner of bikes covered....(apart from a supermoto but now that's another story :silly: )

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