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01 Jul 2022 08:54 #869678 by Mikaw
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If your looking to match a 43mm piston size, you need to find calipers that are marked with 1 11/16. It will be on the hub side (inside) of the caliper.

1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
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01 Jul 2022 08:57 #869679 by Mikaw
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Not a good one but for reference. 

item number 374157048931

1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
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01 Jul 2022 08:59 - 01 Jul 2022 09:01 #869680 by Mikaw
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This ones not bad. 

item 123675943899

keep in mind these are handed based on the “nipple” location. It needs to face up…

lol he said nipple!!!

1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
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Jimi Hendrix.
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01 Jul 2022 09:06 - 01 Jul 2022 09:08 #869682 by DOHC
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I had parts bike which is 1980(?) "special"? with double disk.
....

Now, those two calipers have 43mm pistons (not 38). And when I search eBay I do see kits (with pistons as I need them) but they say for KZ650B (single??) So, now I am confused.
Btw, any recommendations for caliper kits (with pistons) other than eBay? 



 

The KZ650 B model had a single disk. The C and D (SR) models had dual from calipers. However, the B,C, and D models were only sold in the US from 77-79. The FSM shows that there were 1980 models (B4, C4, D4) but it says they were not released in the US. There was a E and F model KZ650 in 1980, but it looks like those were also single disk.

In any case, using two 43mm pistons calipers with the 5/8 master should work well.  I put that setup on my '79 KZ650B with a spoke wheel.

Brakecrafters should have the rebuild kits and pistons you need. The prices are good, the parts of good, and the customer service is excellent.

www.brakecrafters.com/

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01 Jul 2022 09:31 #869684 by katit
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This ones not bad. 

item 123675943899

keep in mind these are handed based on the “nipple” location. It needs to face up…

lol he said nipple!!!

This is bad one. Not sure which one is it (R or L). But on those ebay items, how do you know it's 43mm? 

 

78 KZ650B2A - resto in progress
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/615161...s-1978-kz650-project
Other bikes: 1978 BMW R100/7, 1978 Moto Guzzi T3, 2016 DRZ400s
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01 Jul 2022 09:36 #869685 by katit
Replied by katit on topic Katit's 1978 KZ650 project

I had parts bike which is 1980(?) "special"? with double disk.
....

Now, those two calipers have 43mm pistons (not 38). And when I search eBay I do see kits (with pistons as I need them) but they say for KZ650B (single??) So, now I am confused.
Btw, any recommendations for caliper kits (with pistons) other than eBay? 




 

The KZ650 B model had a single disk. The C and D (SR) models had dual from calipers. However, the B,C, and D models were only sold in the US from 77-79. The FSM shows that there were 1980 models (B4, C4, D4) but it says they were not released in the US. There was a E and F model KZ650 in 1980, but it looks like those were also single disk.

In any case, using two 43mm pistons calipers with the 5/8 master should work well.  I put that setup on my '79 KZ650B with a spoke wheel.

Brakecrafters should have the rebuild kits and pistons you need. The prices are good, the parts of good, and the customer service is excellent.

www.brakecrafters.com/

Thanks! Actually those guys (BrakeCrafters) is exactly what I found on ebay (they sell on ebay). Easier to buy from there..

What is your thought on NOS brake hoses? They have 2 for sale (pn 43059-032). Age is what bothers me. Not sure if it's good, but even the ones I have all beat up and don't have cracks, so NOS might be just fine..

78 KZ650B2A - resto in progress
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/615161...s-1978-kz650-project
Other bikes: 1978 BMW R100/7, 1978 Moto Guzzi T3, 2016 DRZ400s

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01 Jul 2022 09:40 #869687 by Wookie58
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That looks like the "R" one to me, if you put it on the left the "nipple" would be at the bottom making it almost impossible to bleed (we have "grease" nipples as well  )

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01 Jul 2022 10:08 #869694 by Mikaw
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The 1 11/16 mark.

 

1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
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01 Jul 2022 10:11 #869695 by Mikaw
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Agree with Wookie. It looks like a RH. If yours mount trailing fork.

1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
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01 Jul 2022 10:21 #869697 by katit
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The 1 11/16 mark. 
I guess mine will be visible after blasting old paint off 

 

78 KZ650B2A - resto in progress
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/615161...s-1978-kz650-project
Other bikes: 1978 BMW R100/7, 1978 Moto Guzzi T3, 2016 DRZ400s

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01 Jul 2022 10:30 - 01 Jul 2022 10:33 #869699 by Mikaw
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Go here.  www.partzilla.com/product/kawasaki/43020...c3a6020f0cd4f6a63f2f It gives you all the other bikes that use the same piston. 

It’s also saying it’s a 42mm piston. I converted 1 11/16 to mm and it came out to 42.86. So I called it a 43. I’m guessing 42mm is correct

1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
Kowledge Speaks, But Wisdom Listens.
Jimi Hendrix.
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01 Jul 2022 12:07 #869718 by katit
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Go here.  www.partzilla.com/product/kawasaki/43020...c3a6020f0cd4f6a63f2f It gives you all the other bikes that use the same piston. 

It’s also saying it’s a 42mm piston. I converted 1 11/16 to mm and it came out to 42.86. So I called it a 43. I’m guessing 42mm is correct

I will leave it as plan B (replacement caliper). Will see if mine works (seals). 
z1parts have a sale, so some stuff was ordered. I got everything ordered for brakes. Now just need continuing with restoration of parts. Went with NOS for top hose and boot. 
 

78 KZ650B2A - resto in progress
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/615161...s-1978-kz650-project
Other bikes: 1978 BMW R100/7, 1978 Moto Guzzi T3, 2016 DRZ400s

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