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24 Jun 2015 07:39 #678079 by 531blackbanshee
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practice makes perfect !

leon

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

billybiltit.blogspot.com/

www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0

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24 Jun 2015 10:21 #678102 by 650mod
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Not the prettiest, but they'll work :)

78 kz 650 custom
Wiseco 720cc big bore
Dynajet stage 3 carb kit with pods
2002 Kawasaki Z750 exhaust
2001 Buell lightning front end
1999 Ninja 600 swingarm with 1999 Ninja 900 rear rim
converted to monoshock rear
Too many goodies to list fully
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24 Jun 2015 12:00 #678114 by 531blackbanshee
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your getting there.
remember that when tig welding on old tubing that you can't clean inside(i.e. motorcycle frames)of.
to try not to use enough heat to burn all the way through the material.
you only want like 90% penetration.because if you make a 100% penetration it will pull all the impurities from inside the tube and contaminate your weld.
when welding on sealed tube it is good to drill some small (1/8") holes so the air that is heated and expanding has a place to go instead of blowing a hole in your weld.
if you are slick you position the vent hole to where the very end of your weld bead will fill the hole.

nothing beats practice,tig is the most unforgiving to learn.

leon

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

billybiltit.blogspot.com/

www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0

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24 Jun 2015 15:20 #678124 by 650mod
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Awesome tips Leon! Those are all things I didn't think about. My welder did let me in on the hole drilling to let the frame vent out.

I got the headlight sides sealed up today to hold the new turn signals, and welded the cap I need to onto the old tach cable threaded base to seal the tach output off, keeping oil off everything. Last thing to weld- the new ignition mount. I'm thinking somewhere under the tank so it's hidden ...

78 kz 650 custom
Wiseco 720cc big bore
Dynajet stage 3 carb kit with pods
2002 Kawasaki Z750 exhaust
2001 Buell lightning front end
1999 Ninja 600 swingarm with 1999 Ninja 900 rear rim
converted to monoshock rear
Too many goodies to list fully

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26 Jun 2015 16:33 #678370 by 650mod
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All the frame welding is done, and the frame is getting sand blasted tomorrow. Frame will be off to the shop for powder over the week. Question for everyone- does anyone know if/where I could get a replica VIN sticker made? The one that goes right by the steering stem has to come off for powder coating.

78 kz 650 custom
Wiseco 720cc big bore
Dynajet stage 3 carb kit with pods
2002 Kawasaki Z750 exhaust
2001 Buell lightning front end
1999 Ninja 600 swingarm with 1999 Ninja 900 rear rim
converted to monoshock rear
Too many goodies to list fully

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26 Jun 2015 21:35 #678393 by kaw-a-holic
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No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationThis is the only place I know of for the VIN stickers

Jon
1977 KZ1000a1
Mesa, AZ
Phoenix Fighter Project

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27 Jun 2015 03:58 #678414 by RickKZ
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Looking awesome! Thanks for all the info :)

KZ 650 mono shock rebuild project.
KZ 440 Ltd bobber build for my wife

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27 Jun 2015 18:11 #678540 by 650mod
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Kaw - thanks! I'll have to see if they can make one up for me. Rick- no problem. Hopefully you can use some of the info and tricks on your build if you're doing one.

78 kz 650 custom
Wiseco 720cc big bore
Dynajet stage 3 carb kit with pods
2002 Kawasaki Z750 exhaust
2001 Buell lightning front end
1999 Ninja 600 swingarm with 1999 Ninja 900 rear rim
converted to monoshock rear
Too many goodies to list fully

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28 Jun 2015 11:59 #678611 by I_Tig_in_piece
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Awesome build. You had a lot of stuff going on..wow!
little off topic but still in your favor.
Just wanted to add a tig tip or two as well. Leon is 100% on the under/inside nasties coming out while welding dirty :P God awful with old cast items. Wire wheel on an air or electric drill then wipe or spray with a cleaner(I use a mix of rubbing alc and brake cleaner)make sure it's dry before you weld too. I'll sometimes hit the surface with some map gas to burn off any little rag lint left behind and or to dry off my spray.
If your welding path while holding your torch is a little wobbly, try holding your breath. May or may not help..

Cheap labor isn't skilled, skilled labor isn't cheap.
1980 KZ440a. I went green.
If you yourself are building an older bike and can see it through till you're riding it, that's proof you have patience.

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29 Jun 2015 03:49 #678674 by 650mod
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Thanks, Tig! The frame and other bits are going in for powder coating today, so i'm hoping within a week or a week and a half i'll be tuning the carbs with everything back together :)
Those are awesome tips! Thanks for those. It's all a matter of time/practice/tips from other people like you and Leon that make the process easier and cleaner. I'll have to start another build so I can practice up a bit more with the welding ;)

78 kz 650 custom
Wiseco 720cc big bore
Dynajet stage 3 carb kit with pods
2002 Kawasaki Z750 exhaust
2001 Buell lightning front end
1999 Ninja 600 swingarm with 1999 Ninja 900 rear rim
converted to monoshock rear
Too many goodies to list fully

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29 Jun 2015 12:37 #678727 by 650mod
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The frame and all the parts that need to be powder coated are at the shop now! Should be a week until I have everything back and she can start to get pieced back together :)

78 kz 650 custom
Wiseco 720cc big bore
Dynajet stage 3 carb kit with pods
2002 Kawasaki Z750 exhaust
2001 Buell lightning front end
1999 Ninja 600 swingarm with 1999 Ninja 900 rear rim
converted to monoshock rear
Too many goodies to list fully

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29 Jun 2015 13:32 #678735 by Jbosh
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650, can't wait to see her all together!

As long as I get to learn something, I'm happy!

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