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26 Jan 2011 14:13 #425763 by 531blackbanshee
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rslingshot wrote:

I say chop it. 90% of the people who say they are going to restore it never do! So build what you want, single sided 240 would look great, makes me want to rethink mine. I am not sure why I see alot of talk about cutting and spreading the frame to fit a swingarm. I think it would be easier to machine the swingarm to fit the frame (there's a thought)!


i'm with ya on this rslingshot.
lots of folks can cut and weld but not everybody has machines and the knowledge to run them.

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26 Jan 2011 14:17 - 26 Jan 2011 14:40 #425765 by jus1975
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Those guys have alot of cool stuff over there. Can somebody figure this out. Look close at the headlight mount. How the hell does that work.






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26 Jan 2011 15:49 #425814 by 531blackbanshee
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i believe that the clamp goes two thirds around the leg.so that the ends go over center and can clamp.
pretty clean.

grab something that is round but your hand wont fit all the way around,but you can still grip it enough to pick it up.then you will see what i mean.

thats my .02 fwiw.

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26 Jan 2011 17:52 #425866 by jus1975
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I was thinking the same but what about vibration.

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26 Jan 2011 18:17 #425880 by porchev914
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rslingshot wrote:

I say chop it. 90% of the people who say they are going to restore it never do! So build what you want, single sided 240 would look great, makes me want to rethink mine. I am not sure why I see alot of talk about cutting and spreading the frame to fit a swingarm. I think it would be easier to machine the swingarm to fit the frame (there's a thought)!


If you have the capability to do so, sure. It also helps to have a swingarm that is easy to modify. I don't think my Triumph swingarm lends itself to modification well, as it is a hollow cast aluminum piece. It would take just as much cutting machining and welding of the swingarm as it did the frame to fit it. Like Leon pointed out, the kicker there too is that most people do not have the equipment or an AC tig to machine and weld an aluminum swingarm.

FYI Jus, the Triumph eccentric hub is the same for a 955 and a 1050

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26 Jan 2011 18:52 #425896 by rslingshot
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Triumph 955i swingarm and linkage cut welded and fit into an 1989 GSX-R 750 frame (taken from another web site). The 89 GSX-R swingarm fits right into the KZ frame with bushings, so I think if they can fit the Triumph 955i swingarm into the GSX-R frame without cutting and spreading the frame then you should be able to fit it in the KZ frame the same way also.

Dont get me wrong I understand that people make do with what they have but sometimes its better to outsource.




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26 Jan 2011 19:44 #425917 by porchev914
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I wasn't saying it's not possible and I'm not trying to argue. I also agree that sometimes it's better to farm things out, but that kinda defeats the purpose of building it yourself. Yeah, I widened my frame and made new pivot bushings. It might have been easier to mod the swingarm, but I did not have a tig welder, and even if I did, I likely would not have had enough experience to do a solid aluminum weld on a structural componant. In the end it really doesn't matter, a mod is a mod, and means and methods are less important than the finished product B)

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27 Jan 2011 06:29 #426064 by 531blackbanshee
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jus1975 wrote:

I was thinking the same but what about vibration.


jus it clamps on.so if it vibrates loose you did not have the bolts tight enough.
i am pretty sure that once you clamp it down pretty good it is not going anywhere.if they machine it so that there is good surface contact there would be no probs,i think :huh: .

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27 Jan 2011 07:28 #426090 by Kidkawie
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Chop it up! It only makes mine worth more! ha ha

BTW, that green tank is sick! Love the checkered fade.

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27 Jan 2011 18:59 #426258 by manipulator
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I think we all have that same disease, boat, bike, car but you forgot the truck and tractor disease as well. good thing i only need 5-6 night of sleep per week. good luck on the build and try to stay more focused than i can be. looking forward to seeing some progress.

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02 Feb 2011 12:04 #427867 by jus1975
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back at again



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02 Feb 2011 12:07 - 02 Feb 2011 12:09 #427869 by jus1975
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what do you think about these


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