- Posts: 5359
- Thank you received: 109
Tale of an SR650.
- mark1122
- Offline
- User
- Keep twisting it
Less
More
27 Feb 2012 11:12 #506642
by mark1122
76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
01 CBR600F4i Track bike.
Cobourg, Ont. Can.
~ ~ ~_@
~ ~ _- \,
~ (k) / (z)
Replied by mark1122 on topic Tale of an SR650.
that is going to look WICKED! :evil:
what bike is that shock off of ?
what bike is that shock off of ?
76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
01 CBR600F4i Track bike.
Cobourg, Ont. Can.
~ ~ ~_@
~ ~ _- \,
~ (k) / (z)
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- M357.5
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
- Kwakas N' lots of em'
Less
More
- Posts: 341
- Thank you received: 10
27 Feb 2012 15:14 #506659
by M357.5
83 KZ750L X2 + goodies = Project
84 KZ750L the mini ELR replica replica lol
84 ZX750E Turbo modded n' FAAAAASSSSSSTTTTT
85 GPz900r GREEN N' MEAN
Replied by M357.5 on topic Tale of an SR650.
Shock is an Ohlins, off a Ducati 900SS. The 900SS has a cantilever style swingarm/shock layout, so thats why I went with it. I had a guy measure the ducati for swingarm length, shock mounting position etc and transfered these dimensions over to my KZ build. So theoreticaly it should have VERY similar geometry to the Ducati....at least that was the plan. The ZR arm is 1.75" lomger, so I moved the shock mounting point back 1" to compensate for the extra leverage. Obviously the CG etc between the two bikes is quite diferent so other than that its trial and error lol.
The shock spring is for a 200lb rider, I happen to be 200lbs so that worked out well. The bike will likely be 30lbs or so heavier than the Ducati though, so may have to get a different rate spring. Once I weigh it I'll have a better idea.
Its setup with 24.5* of rake as well, so quite steep, but I have a damper to go on so if its twitchy I'll dial in more dampening.
The shock spring is for a 200lb rider, I happen to be 200lbs so that worked out well. The bike will likely be 30lbs or so heavier than the Ducati though, so may have to get a different rate spring. Once I weigh it I'll have a better idea.
Its setup with 24.5* of rake as well, so quite steep, but I have a damper to go on so if its twitchy I'll dial in more dampening.
83 KZ750L X2 + goodies = Project
84 KZ750L the mini ELR replica replica lol
84 ZX750E Turbo modded n' FAAAAASSSSSSTTTTT
85 GPz900r GREEN N' MEAN
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- M357.5
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
- Kwakas N' lots of em'
Less
More
- Posts: 341
- Thank you received: 10
27 Feb 2012 15:18 #506661
by M357.5
83 KZ750L X2 + goodies = Project
84 KZ750L the mini ELR replica replica lol
84 ZX750E Turbo modded n' FAAAAASSSSSSTTTTT
85 GPz900r GREEN N' MEAN
Replied by M357.5 on topic Tale of an SR650.
Started to fab the top brace, I've got a bit more done now, but no pics yet, I'll be tinkering again this evening so I'll post up where I get to later
83 KZ750L X2 + goodies = Project
84 KZ750L the mini ELR replica replica lol
84 ZX750E Turbo modded n' FAAAAASSSSSSTTTTT
85 GPz900r GREEN N' MEAN
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- mark1122
- Offline
- User
- Keep twisting it
Less
More
- Posts: 5359
- Thank you received: 109
27 Feb 2012 15:40 - 28 Feb 2012 19:25 #506664
by mark1122
76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
01 CBR600F4i Track bike.
Cobourg, Ont. Can.
~ ~ ~_@
~ ~ _- \,
~ (k) / (z)
Replied by mark1122 on topic Tale of an SR650.
i'm lovin it.
a KZ caries the weight ratio, back a bit, compared to the duc, so your spring rate should be pretty good.
dont worry about the rake mine is similar and its steady at 125mph.
a KZ caries the weight ratio, back a bit, compared to the duc, so your spring rate should be pretty good.
dont worry about the rake mine is similar and its steady at 125mph.
76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
01 CBR600F4i Track bike.
Cobourg, Ont. Can.
~ ~ ~_@
~ ~ _- \,
~ (k) / (z)
Last edit: 28 Feb 2012 19:25 by mark1122.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- M357.5
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
- Kwakas N' lots of em'
Less
More
- Posts: 341
- Thank you received: 10
28 Feb 2012 18:31 #506880
by M357.5
83 KZ750L X2 + goodies = Project
84 KZ750L the mini ELR replica replica lol
84 ZX750E Turbo modded n' FAAAAASSSSSSTTTTT
85 GPz900r GREEN N' MEAN
Replied by M357.5 on topic Tale of an SR650.
Here are a few more pic's of the swingarm build.
Putting some heat into the aluminum to weld
The upright brace, clamp the hell outta it as aluminum tweaks a bit when cooling as I found out the hard way.
A few of the welds, not use to the spool gun, but other than the stops/starts its not too bad.
Putting some heat into the aluminum to weld
The upright brace, clamp the hell outta it as aluminum tweaks a bit when cooling as I found out the hard way.
A few of the welds, not use to the spool gun, but other than the stops/starts its not too bad.
83 KZ750L X2 + goodies = Project
84 KZ750L the mini ELR replica replica lol
84 ZX750E Turbo modded n' FAAAAASSSSSSTTTTT
85 GPz900r GREEN N' MEAN
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- 531blackbanshee
- Offline
- Vendor
Less
More
- Posts: 7447
- Thank you received: 797
29 Feb 2012 10:48 #506981
by 531blackbanshee
skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!
billybiltit.blogspot.com/
www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work
kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0
Replied by 531blackbanshee on topic Tale of an SR650.
them spool gun welds look real nice.i have one but have never personaly used it.now that i know you can get welds that nice it kinda makes me want to try it out.
your making some good progress.that swingarm is going to be stout as fU(#. :evil:
keep up the good work and keep us posted,
leon
your making some good progress.that swingarm is going to be stout as fU(#. :evil:
keep up the good work and keep us posted,
leon
skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!
billybiltit.blogspot.com/
www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work
kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- M357.5
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
- Kwakas N' lots of em'
Less
More
- Posts: 341
- Thank you received: 10
29 Feb 2012 10:54 #506982
by M357.5
83 KZ750L X2 + goodies = Project
84 KZ750L the mini ELR replica replica lol
84 ZX750E Turbo modded n' FAAAAASSSSSSTTTTT
85 GPz900r GREEN N' MEAN
Replied by M357.5 on topic Tale of an SR650.
The spool gun is a bit finiky, I tried using the recomended setting on a few test pieces, and it was so far off its not even funny. I played with the heat/speed for 4-5 test welds and got it working very well. I had guys telling me you cant make nice welds with a spool gun and I was wasting my time.
I must say I'm pleasantly suprised by it, much cheaper alternative to buying a TIG....although a TIG is on my list
The brace is HUGE, more I look at it the more its overkill, it's got an in your face robustness lmao. I have a few more plans for using the spool gun, headlight brackets, gauge mount, exhaust mount etc.
I must say I'm pleasantly suprised by it, much cheaper alternative to buying a TIG....although a TIG is on my list
The brace is HUGE, more I look at it the more its overkill, it's got an in your face robustness lmao. I have a few more plans for using the spool gun, headlight brackets, gauge mount, exhaust mount etc.
83 KZ750L X2 + goodies = Project
84 KZ750L the mini ELR replica replica lol
84 ZX750E Turbo modded n' FAAAAASSSSSSTTTTT
85 GPz900r GREEN N' MEAN
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- 531blackbanshee
- Offline
- Vendor
Less
More
- Posts: 7447
- Thank you received: 797
29 Feb 2012 11:22 #506988
by 531blackbanshee
skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!
billybiltit.blogspot.com/
www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work
kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0
Replied by 531blackbanshee on topic Tale of an SR650.
on the upside you can polish the piss outta it without worry of getting it too thin :whistle: .
leon
leon
skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!
billybiltit.blogspot.com/
www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work
kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- M357.5
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
- Kwakas N' lots of em'
Less
More
- Posts: 341
- Thank you received: 10
29 Feb 2012 14:52 - 29 Feb 2012 14:55 #507018
by M357.5
83 KZ750L X2 + goodies = Project
84 KZ750L the mini ELR replica replica lol
84 ZX750E Turbo modded n' FAAAAASSSSSSTTTTT
85 GPz900r GREEN N' MEAN
Replied by M357.5 on topic Tale of an SR650.
Arrrrgggghhhhh, the swingarm was too big to get any heat into it, just disipated heat way too fast to make it worth while. So a bunch of the welds look like complete ASS. Started grinding them down, and I like it better with the welds smoothed out lol, so not as big of an issue as I had thought.
I clamped the arm to my bench with 6 c-clamps and 3 pair of grips. Tacked everything and started welding, alternating sides/ends to keep it from warping. Let it all cool for 2 hours, cold to the touch, and unclamped it. Set it in the frame and the pivot bolt slid in like butter....so far so good....grabbed the wheel and spacers, set it in, took a DEEP breath and prayed that the arm hadnt tweaked and that the axle would go in as smooth as the pivot.
WELL WHOLY HELL, fookin thing slid in like it was a greased VAG lol, no fightin at all and everything looks spot on. Whhheeeeeeewww glad I didnt fook up the arm
Going to do the finishing fab on the mount tonight, so i'll post up what I've fooked up then
I clamped the arm to my bench with 6 c-clamps and 3 pair of grips. Tacked everything and started welding, alternating sides/ends to keep it from warping. Let it all cool for 2 hours, cold to the touch, and unclamped it. Set it in the frame and the pivot bolt slid in like butter....so far so good....grabbed the wheel and spacers, set it in, took a DEEP breath and prayed that the arm hadnt tweaked and that the axle would go in as smooth as the pivot.
WELL WHOLY HELL, fookin thing slid in like it was a greased VAG lol, no fightin at all and everything looks spot on. Whhheeeeeeewww glad I didnt fook up the arm
Going to do the finishing fab on the mount tonight, so i'll post up what I've fooked up then
83 KZ750L X2 + goodies = Project
84 KZ750L the mini ELR replica replica lol
84 ZX750E Turbo modded n' FAAAAASSSSSSTTTTT
85 GPz900r GREEN N' MEAN
Last edit: 29 Feb 2012 14:55 by M357.5.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- 531blackbanshee
- Offline
- Vendor
Less
More
- Posts: 7447
- Thank you received: 797
29 Feb 2012 19:13 #507059
by 531blackbanshee
skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!
billybiltit.blogspot.com/
www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work
kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0
Replied by 531blackbanshee on topic Tale of an SR650.
glad it worked so well for you.
leon
leon
skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!
billybiltit.blogspot.com/
www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work
kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- M357.5
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
- Kwakas N' lots of em'
Less
More
- Posts: 341
- Thank you received: 10
29 Feb 2012 22:11 #507108
by M357.5
83 KZ750L X2 + goodies = Project
84 KZ750L the mini ELR replica replica lol
84 ZX750E Turbo modded n' FAAAAASSSSSSTTTTT
85 GPz900r GREEN N' MEAN
Replied by M357.5 on topic Tale of an SR650.
83 KZ750L X2 + goodies = Project
84 KZ750L the mini ELR replica replica lol
84 ZX750E Turbo modded n' FAAAAASSSSSSTTTTT
85 GPz900r GREEN N' MEAN
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- mark1122
- Offline
- User
- Keep twisting it
Less
More
- Posts: 5359
- Thank you received: 109
02 Mar 2012 08:18 #507343
by mark1122
76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
01 CBR600F4i Track bike.
Cobourg, Ont. Can.
~ ~ ~_@
~ ~ _- \,
~ (k) / (z)
Replied by mark1122 on topic Tale of an SR650.
SWEET!!!!
76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
01 CBR600F4i Track bike.
Cobourg, Ont. Can.
~ ~ ~_@
~ ~ _- \,
~ (k) / (z)
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.