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26 May 2013 12:17 #589256 by Hollywoodmx
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531blackbanshee wrote: if you want to tone them down get some black kawasaki decals cut out so they go up and down the leg.

i can't find an image to demonstrate what i mean.

which means it is unique,and not done to death :cheer: .

leon

p.s. kinda like this


Ya I had that planned for my bike as well. You can get kawasaki version from one of their dirtbike or dual sports I cant remember. When I did find them, the price wasnt good enough so I continued my search.

- 82 GPz1100injection
- 77 Kz1075 Supercharged
- 81 Yamaha TR-1
- 81 Yamaha xv920
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27 May 2013 07:56 #589377 by royalratch
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I do need those Dunlop decals!

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27 May 2013 11:02 - 27 May 2013 15:28 #589387 by turboguzzi
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agree with riding it first as is and only then seeking suspension improvement with that USD fork.

an easy way to judge it is to put a zip tie around the fork leg and see how much travel you are using up.

if you are often reaching the bottom even without hard braking, then you need harder spring / higher oil level.

if it was the original fork, i'd tell you to stiffen it up even without riding it.... 70's fork springs were a bad joke :)

just picked a kz750 like yours and doing the spring rate stiffening right away!
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27 Jun 2013 16:39 - 27 Jun 2013 16:45 #594134 by royalratch
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So, bit of an update today. Pic heavy so hang in there!

Bike is pretty much done. Just need to order exhaust, fit carbs, plumb up the brakes get the loom made. In the interest of getting it on the road in the next few weeks I'm going to get the loom made elsewhere - but I have some little extras I need doing to it. Exhaust-wise I'm really into a Black chrome finish if its possible also and whether to go Titanium or not but I won't let it slow me down - stainless 4-into-1 in satin black will be the fallback.

Last bit I've been waiting on is a new rear brake hanger. A few pages back you can see the first effort when I asked the machine shop for their input but they 'over-engineered.' It was beautifully made but unacceptably ugly. So I knocked this up in 3D and they made it almost exactly as drawn - result. Still to be anodised black.









Also get to use a nicer caliper than the single piston claw style which is also less than pretty.






Various other bits and pieces back from powder coating and anodising.










Found this cool little rear LED light which mirrors the sharp angular look on some of the other machined parts.




Also got this direct mount reservoir to help tidy up the front end. Very nicely CNC'ed.




Really into an internally routed throttle cable which I've seen on some other bikes - not sure if its doable with clip-ons.




Only 2 switches up front - high beam and horn. Keyless ignition and starter button in secret location!





I'd like to do something with the engine sprocket cover. Currently its just gloss black but I may have something machined out of the casing to trick it out. Could be something as simple as some linear slats or something more graphic.





Very happy with the paint and colour. It changes dramatically with any fluctuation of light.






Bike as it stands now. Very happy with how everything has come together and close to my original drawings:












A few cosmetic tweaks, Titanium and Stainless fasteners here and there and a few last parts to anodise and paint - like the headlamp which actually makes it look 50% cooler on its own.

Thanks for all the help so far lads - looking into insurance quoted as we speak!
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27 Jun 2013 17:45 #594142 by 650ed
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Take a close look at that front tire; you have it mounted so it's rolling in the wrong direction. Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)

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27 Jun 2013 22:18 #594167 by guitargeek
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Hollywoodmx wrote:

531blackbanshee wrote:

NEED. EYE. BLEACH. :sick:

1980 KZ750-H1 (slightly altered)
1987 KZ1000-P6 "Ponch"
1979 GS1000 "Dadzuki"

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27 Jun 2013 22:44 #594170 by 650mod
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wow, she's really cleaned up a lot! What a beauty!

Devin

78 kz 650 custom
Wiseco 720cc big bore
Dynajet stage 3 carb kit with pods
2002 Kawasaki Z750 exhaust
2001 Buell lightning front end
1999 Ninja 600 swingarm with 1999 Ninja 900 rear rim
converted to monoshock rear
Too many goodies to list fully

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28 Jun 2013 01:07 #594192 by CruisingRam
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CruisingRam wrote: I was tuned about 7 months ago?


I am so glad I helped resurrect this thread LOL

1975 Z1 B 900- soon to be heavily modded
Pahoa, Hawaii is my new hom
I am working hard to save up the shipping money to get my shop opened here in Hawaii
I hate electrical stuff.
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28 Jun 2013 06:34 #594202 by royalratch
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I'm now thinking it may be time for some carbon Yoshi goodness instead of the normal steel stubby muffler?



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28 Jun 2013 16:25 #594237 by turboguzzi
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looking good man! but in that position you are going to drag the silencer at not much lean.

take a look at some late R6 systems, the whole silencer is UNDER the motor, and just a tiny stub pokes out

me thinks that your number plate is going to touch the tire at full bump....

is that tank the original E model's?

the rear caliper hanger looks the right size now ;)

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28 Jun 2013 18:35 - 28 Jun 2013 18:37 #594258 by royalratch
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turboguzzi wrote: looking good man! but in that position you are going to drag the silencer at not much lean.

take a look at some late R6 systems, the whole silencer is UNDER the motor, and just a tiny stub pokes out
me thinks that your number plate is going to touch the tire at full bump....

is that tank the original E model's?

the rear caliper hanger looks the right size now ;)


Yeah the silencer is just a rough idea as I don;t want it angled up like an R6 / GSX. Licence plate will be very small and angled up quite a bit. Plus I want a Yoshi Carbon can so it WILL fit lol. Tanks is a late 780s KZ650.



Dug out the carbs for the first time in over a year! Nut and bolt refurbishment of a set of Mikuni BS34 CV carbs with uprated DynoJets set uo for an 810 motor. Plus some K&N pods.

I went for rideablilty over outright power - I have no experience of slide carbs but have heard more for than against. Time will tell I guess.









I'm a bit concerned how the silver bodies will look against the black motor as I was advised against painting carbs. Will mount them up and get cracking on the exhaust and loom. Pushing hard for a late July MOT.

Anyone know what the inlet rubber mount bolts spec is - I'd guess an M6 / 1.25 thread?
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28 Jun 2013 18:56 #594261 by turboguzzi
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try not to hate me for telling you this but, good luck sorting out CV carbs with pods

i know the fighter/cafe crowd dont like them and they are just not cool but CV carbs love stock airboxes + some proper filtering and bike will be simply nicer to ride

expect to spit some blood in making them work

you have so much stuff in this build, if you want to keep the "no airbox" look, would try and take the plunge for 29 keihin CRs. 10 times easier to dial in.

no kidding
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