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Re: Z650 Café Fighter Chopper thing
26 May 2013 12:17Ya I had that planned for my bike as well. You can get kawasaki version from one of their dirtbike or dual sports I cant remember. When I did find them, the price wasnt good enough so I continued my search.
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Re: Z650 Café Fighter Chopper thing
27 May 2013 11:02 - 27 May 2013 15:28
agree with riding it first as is and only then seeking suspension improvement with that USD fork.
an easy way to judge it is to put a zip tie around the fork leg and see how much travel you are using up.
if you are often reaching the bottom even without hard braking, then you need harder spring / higher oil level.
if it was the original fork, i'd tell you to stiffen it up even without riding it.... 70's fork springs were a bad joke
just picked a kz750 like yours and doing the spring rate stiffening right away!
an easy way to judge it is to put a zip tie around the fork leg and see how much travel you are using up.
if you are often reaching the bottom even without hard braking, then you need harder spring / higher oil level.
if it was the original fork, i'd tell you to stiffen it up even without riding it.... 70's fork springs were a bad joke

just picked a kz750 like yours and doing the spring rate stiffening right away!
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Re: Z650 Café Fighter Chopper thing
27 Jun 2013 16:39 - 27 Jun 2013 16:45
So, bit of an update today. Pic heavy so hang in there!
Bike is pretty much done. Just need to order exhaust, fit carbs, plumb up the brakes get the loom made. In the interest of getting it on the road in the next few weeks I'm going to get the loom made elsewhere - but I have some little extras I need doing to it. Exhaust-wise I'm really into a Black chrome finish if its possible also and whether to go Titanium or not but I won't let it slow me down - stainless 4-into-1 in satin black will be the fallback.
Last bit I've been waiting on is a new rear brake hanger. A few pages back you can see the first effort when I asked the machine shop for their input but they 'over-engineered.' It was beautifully made but unacceptably ugly. So I knocked this up in 3D and they made it almost exactly as drawn - result. Still to be anodised black.
Also get to use a nicer caliper than the single piston claw style which is also less than pretty.
Various other bits and pieces back from powder coating and anodising.
Found this cool little rear LED light which mirrors the sharp angular look on some of the other machined parts.
Also got this direct mount reservoir to help tidy up the front end. Very nicely CNC'ed.
Really into an internally routed throttle cable which I've seen on some other bikes - not sure if its doable with clip-ons.
Only 2 switches up front - high beam and horn. Keyless ignition and starter button in secret location!
I'd like to do something with the engine sprocket cover. Currently its just gloss black but I may have something machined out of the casing to trick it out. Could be something as simple as some linear slats or something more graphic.
Very happy with the paint and colour. It changes dramatically with any fluctuation of light.
Bike as it stands now. Very happy with how everything has come together and close to my original drawings:
A few cosmetic tweaks, Titanium and Stainless fasteners here and there and a few last parts to anodise and paint - like the headlamp which actually makes it look 50% cooler on its own.
Thanks for all the help so far lads - looking into insurance quoted as we speak!
Bike is pretty much done. Just need to order exhaust, fit carbs, plumb up the brakes get the loom made. In the interest of getting it on the road in the next few weeks I'm going to get the loom made elsewhere - but I have some little extras I need doing to it. Exhaust-wise I'm really into a Black chrome finish if its possible also and whether to go Titanium or not but I won't let it slow me down - stainless 4-into-1 in satin black will be the fallback.
Last bit I've been waiting on is a new rear brake hanger. A few pages back you can see the first effort when I asked the machine shop for their input but they 'over-engineered.' It was beautifully made but unacceptably ugly. So I knocked this up in 3D and they made it almost exactly as drawn - result. Still to be anodised black.
Also get to use a nicer caliper than the single piston claw style which is also less than pretty.
Various other bits and pieces back from powder coating and anodising.
Found this cool little rear LED light which mirrors the sharp angular look on some of the other machined parts.
Also got this direct mount reservoir to help tidy up the front end. Very nicely CNC'ed.
Really into an internally routed throttle cable which I've seen on some other bikes - not sure if its doable with clip-ons.
Only 2 switches up front - high beam and horn. Keyless ignition and starter button in secret location!
I'd like to do something with the engine sprocket cover. Currently its just gloss black but I may have something machined out of the casing to trick it out. Could be something as simple as some linear slats or something more graphic.
Very happy with the paint and colour. It changes dramatically with any fluctuation of light.
Bike as it stands now. Very happy with how everything has come together and close to my original drawings:
A few cosmetic tweaks, Titanium and Stainless fasteners here and there and a few last parts to anodise and paint - like the headlamp which actually makes it look 50% cooler on its own.
Thanks for all the help so far lads - looking into insurance quoted as we speak!
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Re: Z650 Café Fighter Chopper thing
27 Jun 2013 17:45
Take a close look at that front tire; you have it mounted so it's rolling in the wrong direction. Ed
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Re: Z650 Café Fighter Chopper thing
27 Jun 2013 22:18
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Re: Z650 Café Fighter Chopper thing
27 Jun 2013 22:44
wow, she's really cleaned up a lot! What a beauty!
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Re: Z650 Café Fighter Chopper thing
28 Jun 2013 01:07CruisingRam wrote: I was tuned about 7 months ago?
I am so glad I helped resurrect this thread LOL
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Re: Z800 Cafe Fighter Chopper thing
28 Jun 2013 06:34
I'm now thinking it may be time for some carbon Yoshi goodness instead of the normal steel stubby muffler?
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Re: Z800 Cafe Fighter Chopper thing
28 Jun 2013 16:25
looking good man! but in that position you are going to drag the silencer at not much lean.
take a look at some late R6 systems, the whole silencer is UNDER the motor, and just a tiny stub pokes out
me thinks that your number plate is going to touch the tire at full bump....
is that tank the original E model's?
the rear caliper hanger looks the right size now
take a look at some late R6 systems, the whole silencer is UNDER the motor, and just a tiny stub pokes out
me thinks that your number plate is going to touch the tire at full bump....
is that tank the original E model's?
the rear caliper hanger looks the right size now

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Re: Z800 Cafe Fighter Chopper thing
28 Jun 2013 18:35 - 28 Jun 2013 18:37turboguzzi wrote: looking good man! but in that position you are going to drag the silencer at not much lean.
take a look at some late R6 systems, the whole silencer is UNDER the motor, and just a tiny stub pokes out
me thinks that your number plate is going to touch the tire at full bump....
is that tank the original E model's?
the rear caliper hanger looks the right size now
Yeah the silencer is just a rough idea as I don;t want it angled up like an R6 / GSX. Licence plate will be very small and angled up quite a bit. Plus I want a Yoshi Carbon can so it WILL fit lol. Tanks is a late 780s KZ650.
Dug out the carbs for the first time in over a year! Nut and bolt refurbishment of a set of Mikuni BS34 CV carbs with uprated DynoJets set uo for an 810 motor. Plus some K&N pods.
I went for rideablilty over outright power - I have no experience of slide carbs but have heard more for than against. Time will tell I guess.
I'm a bit concerned how the silver bodies will look against the black motor as I was advised against painting carbs. Will mount them up and get cracking on the exhaust and loom. Pushing hard for a late July MOT.
Anyone know what the inlet rubber mount bolts spec is - I'd guess an M6 / 1.25 thread?
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Re: Z800 Cafe Fighter Chopper thing
28 Jun 2013 18:56
try not to hate me for telling you this but, good luck sorting out CV carbs with pods
i know the fighter/cafe crowd dont like them and they are just not cool but CV carbs love stock airboxes + some proper filtering and bike will be simply nicer to ride
expect to spit some blood in making them work
you have so much stuff in this build, if you want to keep the "no airbox" look, would try and take the plunge for 29 keihin CRs. 10 times easier to dial in.
no kidding
i know the fighter/cafe crowd dont like them and they are just not cool but CV carbs love stock airboxes + some proper filtering and bike will be simply nicer to ride
expect to spit some blood in making them work
you have so much stuff in this build, if you want to keep the "no airbox" look, would try and take the plunge for 29 keihin CRs. 10 times easier to dial in.
no kidding
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