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28 Jun 2013 19:03 #594262 by royalratch
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I hear you dude but I've heard the flipside just as often about slide carbs, rattly, jerky, temperamental and old etc etc.

The engine builder and the carb supplier both said that if set up correctly the CVs should be fine with pods.
I know nothing about dialling in carbs of either type other than basic fuel / air tweaks but I defer to their experience.

I'm not saying you're wrong as you obnviously know your onions but I had to come down on one side - and I chose rideability - :unsure:

I could still go back to an airbox or go for some slide carbs if it all goes pear shaped.

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28 Jun 2013 19:24 #594265 by CruisingRam
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I will be the first guy to say that I am not the best tuner in the land- I farmed as much of that out as I could in my old shop- but I have to say, if i was wanting a carb to tune easy with pods and stay in tune it would be the CV carbs. They were more forgiving once you got them right IMHO.

1975 Z1 B 900- soon to be heavily modded
Pahoa, Hawaii is my new hom
I am working hard to save up the shipping money to get my shop opened here in Hawaii
I hate electrical stuff.
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28 Jun 2013 19:29 #594267 by 650ed
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Regarding the use of pods on CV carbs. If you haven't read the test in the link below you may find it interesting. Pay special attention to the last 3 paragraphs on the last page. Ed

kzrider.com/forum/3-carburetor/585949-po...-a-free-lunch#585949

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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28 Jun 2013 19:36 #594269 by CruisingRam
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650ed wrote: Regarding the use of pods on CV carbs. If you haven't read the test in the link below you may find it interesting. Pay special attention to the last 3 paragraphs on the last page. Ed

kzrider.com/forum/3-carburetor/585949-po...-a-free-lunch#585949


Good info, thanks! I had the "cheese grater" box on my Z1, maybe I will stick with it LOL

1975 Z1 B 900- soon to be heavily modded
Pahoa, Hawaii is my new hom
I am working hard to save up the shipping money to get my shop opened here in Hawaii
I hate electrical stuff.

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28 Jun 2013 19:45 - 28 Jun 2013 19:48 #594270 by turboguzzi
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excellent read ed and reflects my experience

i gave up trying to sort 34 CVs off a GPZ750 on my 750E (wanted mo powa', you know... ) and installed a rack of VM26SS (actually 27mm bores) with stock airbox and filter.

couldnt been happier :)

agree that CRs are not the best idling, they are after all race carbs but VMs 26, 28 are so easy to work on
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28 Jun 2013 19:47 #594271 by CruisingRam
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I have those same carbs on my Z1 with the cheese grater air cleaner

1975 Z1 B 900- soon to be heavily modded
Pahoa, Hawaii is my new hom
I am working hard to save up the shipping money to get my shop opened here in Hawaii
I hate electrical stuff.

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29 Jun 2013 18:55 #594362 by royalratch
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Test fitted carbs - not as bad looking as I'd thought.



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30 Jun 2013 06:29 #594427 by royalratch
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Another tweak to Muffler position - this looks good for me. Just need to go see a Yoshimura R77 in the flesh and make sure its not too huge then get it ordered and sent to ExhaustCraft along with drawings so they can make the down pipes and link pipe.

The muffler support bracket will probably need a tweak too.




Then its really just the loom - everything else is minor and I can see an MOT mid-late July tops which means lots of riding in August!

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01 Jul 2013 01:10 - 01 Jul 2013 01:10 #594549 by Hollywoodmx
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The bike is looking fantastic. It's nice work for sure. I'm not sold on the seat matching the build though.

- 82 GPz1100injection
- 77 Kz1075 Supercharged
- 81 Yamaha TR-1
- 81 Yamaha xv920
Calgary
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01 Jul 2013 07:08 #594567 by turboguzzi
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this guy has a real knack for pimping up stuff

www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/550823...s-z1-clone?start=220

go through the build, could be inspiration for your sprocket cover

not my cup of tea, but i can really appreciate his skill and vision

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02 Jul 2013 11:45 #594708 by 531blackbanshee
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congrats on all your hard work ratch.

very nicely played sir.

leon

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

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11 Aug 2013 07:02 - 15 Aug 2013 16:06 #600799 by Gordy
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Awesome bike and work. I've just bought a Z650 with a rear monoshock conversion and zxr400 front end. I was wondering what levers/perches you are using as they look perfect. I'm uk based would you possibly know of a place to get them in the UK?
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