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11 Mar 2023 10:55 - 11 Mar 2023 13:23 #881380
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Weirdness after top end rebuild: KZ650 was created by DanMadBoy
Nevermind!
KZ650 is running great after the top end rebuild.
Hope everyone is having a good weekend. I rode the bike like crazy today!
KZ650 is running great after the top end rebuild.
Hope everyone is having a good weekend. I rode the bike like crazy today!
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11 Mar 2023 17:00 #881390
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Nevermind!
KZ650 is running great after the top end rebuild.
Hope everyone is having a good weekend. I rode the bike like crazy today!
Does that mean you won't post pics of the rollers, you and the bike?
Steve
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11 Mar 2023 17:15 - 11 Mar 2023 17:17 #881392
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FYI Im not yet 30, in grad school and have a KZ650. Thats about all i got.
Youve been helpful though, and I appreciate it. Only problem I have now is, sometimes when Im at a light and it turns green, I roll the throttle and the bike shudders before it starts going.
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I did post a photo of the bike, but some ppl in this forum are so hostile, I took it down.
Nevermind!
KZ650 is running great after the top end rebuild.
Hope everyone is having a good weekend. I rode the bike like crazy today!
Does that mean you won't post pics of the rollers, you and the bike?
Steve
FYI Im not yet 30, in grad school and have a KZ650. Thats about all i got.
Youve been helpful though, and I appreciate it. Only problem I have now is, sometimes when Im at a light and it turns green, I roll the throttle and the bike shudders before it starts going.
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11 Mar 2023 17:31 #881395
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Please check the "things to know" thread linked in my signature. It details out a bunch of things to check. Something may prove helpful.
And with the bike coming off a rebuild, you should retorque the cylinder head and check the valve clearances after a few hundred miles. Most OEM's say something like 600 miles. And if you find the cylinder head nuts loose, tighten them and check them again in 200 miles more, until subsequent checks show the nuts are staying tight.
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Could be carbs. Could be ignition. Hard to say.
Youve been helpful though, and I appreciate it. Only problem I have now is, sometimes when Im at a light and it turns green, I roll the throttle and the bike shudders before it starts going.
Please check the "things to know" thread linked in my signature. It details out a bunch of things to check. Something may prove helpful.
And with the bike coming off a rebuild, you should retorque the cylinder head and check the valve clearances after a few hundred miles. Most OEM's say something like 600 miles. And if you find the cylinder head nuts loose, tighten them and check them again in 200 miles more, until subsequent checks show the nuts are staying tight.
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11 Mar 2023 17:34 #881396
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Could the stuttering be down to things just settling after the top end rebuild?
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Thanks for this. The carbs were in tip top shape before the top end was done, so I dont believe the problem lies with them. Maybe fuel delivery or ignition? Anyway, my uncle's friend who did the work is on a 2 week cruise with his Mrs now, so I will have to figure it out.
Could be carbs. Could be ignition. Hard to say.
Youve been helpful though, and I appreciate it. Only problem I have now is, sometimes when Im at a light and it turns green, I roll the throttle and the bike shudders before it starts going.
Please check the "things to know" thread linked in my signature. It details out a bunch of things to check. Something may prove helpful.
And with the bike coming off a rebuild, you should retorque the cylinder head and check the valve clearances after a few hundred miles. Most OEM's say something like 600 miles. And if you find the cylinder head nuts loose, tighten them and check them again in 200 miles more, until subsequent checks show the nuts are staying tight.
Could the stuttering be down to things just settling after the top end rebuild?
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11 Mar 2023 23:09 #881398
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=19.5pxhi not to take this off thread but ref retorque i thought that if a multi layer head gasket was used it applies ,due to heat cycles but how was this done when all these z were new back in the day
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12 Mar 2023 03:39 #881399
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If it's a normal fiber or copper etc then re-torque after cooling on first start up and then again a few hundred miles later.
AIR CORRECTOR JETS FOR VM CARBS AND ETHANOL RESISTANT VITON CHOKE PLUNGER SEAL REPLACMENT FOR ALL CLASSIC AND MODERN MOTORCYCLE CARBURETTORS
kzrider.com/forum/23-for-sale/611992-air-corrector-jets-
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If it's an MLS gasket then no re-torque needed.=19.5pxhi not to take this off thread but ref retorque i thought that if a multi layer head gasket was used it applies ,due to heat cycles but how was this done when all these z were new back in the day
If it's a normal fiber or copper etc then re-torque after cooling on first start up and then again a few hundred miles later.
AIR CORRECTOR JETS FOR VM CARBS AND ETHANOL RESISTANT VITON CHOKE PLUNGER SEAL REPLACMENT FOR ALL CLASSIC AND MODERN MOTORCYCLE CARBURETTORS
kzrider.com/forum/23-for-sale/611992-air-corrector-jets-
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12 Mar 2023 05:41 #881400
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Thanks for responding
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12 Mar 2023 08:29 #881404
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Former M.E. at Kawasaki Motors Manufacturing, Lincoln, NE
1966 W1 (the Z1 of 1966-50H.P. and 100mph!)
1974 Z1
1978 KZ1000 LTD
1976 KZ900B pile O parts
1980 KZ750E
1980 Honda XL250S (I know, wrong flavor!)
Replied by krazee1 on topic Weirdness after top end rebuild: KZ650
=19.5pxhi not to take this off thread but ref retorque i thought that if a multi layer head gasket was used it applies ,due to heat cycles but how was this done when all these z were new back in the day
"Back in the day" at the Lincoln factory, the guy who unpackaged the engines from Japan retorqued the cylinder head nuts. The engines were run up in Japan as part of the final inspection, but I was never told how long they were run. Hard to believe that they were run long enough to reach full operating temperature, but IDK. I believe the first MLS head gasket was the liquid cooled 1984 GPZ900.
Mike
Former M.E. at Kawasaki Motors Manufacturing, Lincoln, NE
1966 W1 (the Z1 of 1966-50H.P. and 100mph!)
1974 Z1
1978 KZ1000 LTD
1976 KZ900B pile O parts
1980 KZ750E
1980 Honda XL250S (I know, wrong flavor!)
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12 Mar 2023 12:33 #881421
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THANKS TO ZED1015 AND KRAZEE1SORRY TO HIJACK THIS BUT IS IT BEST TO REMOVE THE CAM COVER TO DO ALL THE BOLTS SO ITS EVEN TORQUE
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12 Mar 2023 14:43 #881432
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My 1975 Z 1 B 900 Project
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/605133...ears-deep-sleep-mode
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No need to remove the valve cover to re-torque the head nuts!
My 1975 Z 1 B 900 Project
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/605133...ears-deep-sleep-mode
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12 Mar 2023 18:05 #881443
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The 650 head has two bolts in the cam tunnel. These are the ones, that on later year 650's, and the 750/4's, that are stretch to yield.
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