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05 Mar 2009 12:14 #269838 by Robinjo
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Bad Kaw wrote:

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I've been temporarily defeated by the front brake, can't seem to get it bled properly, even tried a different master cilinder but that didn't help... bled a lot of brakes but this one is a toughie, maybe a big siringe or a vacuum pump might work.

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05 Mar 2009 12:24 #269841 by 531blackbanshee
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here at work(toyota forklift dealership)we up bleed brakes from the wheel cylinder,block the master cylinder open and pressure up in to the reservore(sp?)until you see no bubbles and clean fluid.we use squirt oil cans with a vacuum hose wired on the end to connect to the bleeder with brake fluid in it to do it. hth

leon holmes

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

billybiltit.blogspot.com/

www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

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05 Mar 2009 12:25 #269842 by 531blackbanshee
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oh yeah,so i guess "no windmill pics"eh?haha
:laugh:

leon holmes

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

billybiltit.blogspot.com/

www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

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05 Mar 2009 13:09 #269854 by Robinjo
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Oh there will be pics, with or without a windmill/ coffeeshop/red light district/tulip field background (choose your favorite Dutch cliche)... but not today.

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05 Mar 2009 13:44 #269856 by 531blackbanshee
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we understand that the bikes are the priority.without them we would all be a bunch of un-connected village idiots,wait someone with a pitchfork is calling me!:laugh:

leon holmes

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

billybiltit.blogspot.com/

www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0

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08 Mar 2009 10:35 #270373 by Robinjo
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There you go! :cheer:



An actual working windmill, used to grind grane for the baker next door to it, pretty windy outside today so it was spinning fast. Kinda dwarfs the mighty Martin though. :blush:

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08 Mar 2009 10:51 #270377 by mark1122
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Pretty Cool.B)

76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
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09 Mar 2009 07:44 #270571 by 531blackbanshee
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naw,the martin looks like david fixing to topple goliath!
ok funny guy,thanks for the obligatory windmill picture,:laugh: .so what kinda 90 degree drive do those windmills use?bevel drive,flat plates with interlocking pins or what?got any idea?i truely am a gear head even if they aren't on bikes:P .
didja get your brakes bled out?
sorry for all the questions,but i need to know things:lol: .


leon holmes

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

billybiltit.blogspot.com/

www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0

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09 Mar 2009 13:59 - 09 Mar 2009 14:01 #270633 by Robinjo
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531blackbanshee wrote:

naw,the martin looks like david fixing to topple goliath!
ok funny guy,thanks for the obligatory windmill picture,:laugh: .so what kinda 90 degree drive do those windmills use?bevel drive,flat plates with interlocking pins or what?got any idea?i truely am a gear head even if they aren't on bikes:P .
didja get your brakes bled out?
sorry for all the questions,but i need to know things:lol: .


leon holmes


I finally got the brakes bled, sort of.

Turns out one of the botttom exits of the brakeline splitter had an 'issue' (learned that from OCC :laugh: ) and was filed down flat again but at a few degrees angle, solved by really bolting the banjo down tightly squishing the sealer washer to twice it's normal width at one end, when I replaced it with a new one without knowing what was going on down there it kept leaking. I resurfaced the entire bottom end of the splitter so it's all straight again. Also there some air still trapped in there so ended up unbolting it from the lower tree and keeping it at and angle during bleeding and leaving it a day under pressure got me some pressure, not perfect but enough for a testrun. Could have acces to a vacuum system soon hopefully.

Is this a stock Kawa splitter?

Test run this saturday at the Open house day of Moto Eemnes, weather permitting.

Windmill gears are usually flat plates with interlocking pins afaik, wooden off course.

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09 Mar 2009 14:37 #270650 by mark1122
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That is an early single disk splitter. it will work fine.I used 1 like that. the dual disks, had a similar splitter with another outlet.B)

76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
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13 Mar 2009 13:57 #271636 by 531blackbanshee
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brakes are a good thing,mostly:laugh: .although they are always the last thing i wan't to use:P .flat plates with interlocking pins eh?just as i suspected.
i hope you got your bike lined out for the moto Eemnes.keep us posted.

leon holmes

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

billybiltit.blogspot.com/

www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0

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13 Mar 2009 14:24 #271646 by Robinjo
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mark1122 wrote:

That is an early single disk splitter. it will work fine.I used 1 like that. the dual disks, had a similar splitter with another outlet.B)


This is the splitter that was on my dual disc bike, there are two outlets on the bottom, you can see that one was filed down (crooked) allways good to know if a part is stock or not on a special bike like this.

531blackbanshee wrote:

brakes are a good thing,mostly:laugh: .although they are always the last thing i wan't to use:P .flat plates with interlocking pins eh?just as i suspected.
i hope you got your bike lined out for the moto Eemnes.keep us posted.

leon holmes


He who brakes later rides fast longer right? ;)

Brakes are about right now, did some more bleeding and left it standing under pressure for a night ad I got some pressure without pumping, after another night the lever is a bit firmer still, shaved down brake pads still need some running in too I guess so that should help.

Also entered the bike for the "1st Int. Dutch Classic
Superbike Meeting" in June I told you about a while ago and it's accepted. :) Check out the contestants foto gallery! www.classicsuperbikemeeting.nl/english/english.htm

But right now I lost the clutch, all of a sudden it's slipping and can't be adjusted properly, the feel in the lever is weird. :unsure: Checked a lot of stuff also inside the motor but that looks okay except two broken fiber plates, maybe it's the bit of galling on the cluth rod or maybe the worm gear is the issue. will do a search here for the common causes.

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