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Side to side play in swing arm 81 KZ305 was created by Stingray812

22 Apr 2020 07:00
Stingray812's Avatar Stingray812
I took the swing arm off of my bike to check the condition of the bearings and noticed that about 6 or 8 (3 or 4 on each side) paper thin metal washers came out with it. When I put it back together with out them (since they were in pretty bad shape) there is almost 2mm of side to side play in the swing arm. I checked the parts breakdown for that bike and it doesn't show those washers and all the other parts appear to be there and appear to be in decent shape. It's almost as if the swing arm is the incorrect size but everything appears to be stock. I made sure the bolt was torqued to spec but the play is still there. Does anyone have any experience with this sort of thing or have any suggestions on what may be happening?

Replied by ob1jeeper on topic Center Stand match/ 78 KZ1000 b2 ltd

14 Apr 2020 21:49 - 14 Apr 2020 21:55
ob1jeeper's Avatar ob1jeeper
78kawltd wrote: Here is what is being sold on Ebay to compare the longer length. IE. Selling A 1977 center stand .
Help please.

On my original '76 900-LTD (bought new), I disliked not having a center stand, so I bought one for the std 900 from the dealer, and welded a leg to it, cushioned with a rubber cane tip, which contacted the right rear swing arm, and kept the the stand from contacting the Lt. muffler.

So when I recently acquired another '76 900-LTD, I bought the center stand shown above, but this time did not want to damage the powdercoating of the new stand, so I fabbed up a bolt-on piece to attach to the Rt Rr swing arm, which is the stop to keep the stand off the muffler. ;)

As far as high effort to get it on the stand, I would recommend shortening the legs JUST enough that you are more easily able to get it on the stand. Have modified a few myself, after using a helper and shimming BOTH tires with 1/8-1/4" thick shims, until the height was sufficient to make getting it on the stand acceptable. Once you know how much you want to take off, it's a simple matter of sectioning the legs and re-welding/painting them. ;)

Replied by gazzz on topic KZ650 cafe-racer

14 Apr 2020 10:56
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This post is about work on KZ650 chassis: modifying some parts, and calculating, and drawing all adapters I have to order to be made: for Zephyr 550 swingarm, for shocks, and so on. This work needs some concentration, and it’s result doesn’t looks impressive. However, it has some interesting moments. For example, I decided to check, if Zephyr 550 swingarm has symmetrically positioned shock mounts. One may say: what might be easier, just put straight rod to shock mount and check if distance between rod and sleeve housing is similar on both sides. But nope, it wouldn’t work. The only parts that really must be straight and leveled in Zephyr 550 swingarm are: sleeve, its housing, and chain tension eccentrics. Swingarm mounts might be completely in place, but slightly angled to longitude axle. And even one degree of deviation on length of swingarm would end up as 9.5mm of difference. So the best idea is to make measuring depending on things that are straight for sure. So as base for my measuring I used swingarm sleeve being pulled on some fixed distance from bearings.

And sure, I used laser tool instead of rod. I put it to sleeve and pull sleeve to the level where laser beam is aimed to center of left inner shock mount.





Then I measured distance from end of sleeve to sleeve housing and pulled sleeve from other side of housing on same distance. Beam of laser tool, that I put on sleeve, was aimed completely in same point of right shock mount.





This means that shock mount of Zephyr 550 swingarm positioned symmetrically to sleeve and its housing. To make sure that there was no mistake I put some leveled part (like wheel spacer) to sleeve housing and repeated measuring. Result was the same, thus symmetrical position of shock mounts was confirmed.

Little illustration of fact that eccentric’ end and sleeve/housing’ ends are in parallel planes:

Replied by DoctoRot on topic Hello from Nova Scotia! New to GPZ1100, Not new to motorcycles

14 Apr 2020 10:39
DoctoRot's Avatar DoctoRot
DNort wrote: Hello everyone!

2. Anyone know how large of a rear tire I can run? I don't often go on highways but I'd like to lower my RPMs for longer trips.
Currently the rear tire is a 120/90/18

3. Any recommendations for tires in general? I plan on mostly Cruising with some occasional spirited riding.

4. Anything maintenance wise I need to keep an eye on? I heard these engines can twist cranks if you over-rev them. Is there any special maintenance needed for the fuel pump or the injection system? I typically make sure to start it and let it run for a while at least once a month during the winter.

5. The rear swingarm has been swapped for one out of a suzuki GS1000. I currently have the stock one. I plan on leaving the suzuki one in there but it seems like it makes the bike a little lower. I don't think I care too much. I imagine the Suzuki one is an upgrade as I've heard it's longer and wider. It seems to ride nice. Can anyone confirm or give me any more details about this sort of swap?

Welcome to the forum! That GPZ looks cherry!

to answer some of your questions:

1. I don't have experience with this exact model but on many other Kawasaki's I believe this is a m6 bolt. its easy enough to check by trying a known m6 bolt.

2. You are limited by the width of the wheel. you may be able to run a 130 wide tire depending on manufacturer specs. However, if you are only doing this to lower your cruising RPM the preferred method is to either increase the front sprocket or decrease the rear sprocket to change the final drive ratio. increasing the front sprocket tooth count will also extend your chain life. here is a gearing calculator

www.gearingcommander.com/

3. Avon Road riders are good, Bridgestone BT-45 are nice because they are dual compound.

4. These engines can twist cranks if you are launching them with a slick, or start modding them for big horsepower. For everyday street riding on a mild engine twisting the crank is not a concern. Other things to keep an eye out for are pretty much standard on old bikes, dodgy wiring, hard old rubber... etc. maybe someone else can chime in here.

5. That swingarm is actually off a GS1100E, it is indeed slightly longer and wider, but the biggest advantage is it is much stiffer than the stock swing-arm, and weighs less. Its a nice period correct upgrade.
DNort's Avatar DNort
Hello everyone!

After owning a 82 Kawasaki LTD 550, and then an 82 Kawasaki LTD 750, I decided to keep up my hat trick of owning 1982 kawasaki's
Late last year I've acquired a lightly (and IMO tastefully) modified 82 GPZ1100. It still has the fuel injection and it starts and drives perfectly.

Modifications include a steering dampener. An Aluminum subframe off of a Suzuki GS1000 (I have the stock one still, but I'm not sure if there were any permanent modifications to make this Suzuki subframe work, please let me know), braided steel brake lines.

All around the bike seems to be in really good shape. I plan on keeping it mostly as it is, aside from putting some of the stock bits and bobs back on, Like the stock turn signals (I got a set) and the rail that goes around teh back of the seat. (the former owner took off the rear inner fender, which looked silly IMO and also left the wiring harness for the PCM kind of exposed which I didn't like. I put that back on already)

Threads are generally useless without pics, and while she isn't perfect I think she is beautiful and I really enjoy riding her.

I have a few questions though.
1. Does anyone know the size of the bolt that goes through the helmet lock to hold the rail that goes around the seat back on? Everything is in quarantine and I'd like to avoid.

2. Anyone know how large of a rear tire I can run? I don't often go on highways but I'd like to lower my RPMs for longer trips.
Currently the rear tire is a 120/90/18

3. Any recommendations for tires in general? I plan on mostly Cruising with some occasional spirited riding.

4. Anything maintenance wise I need to keep an eye on? I heard these engines can twist cranks if you over-rev them. Is there any special maintenance needed for the fuel pump or the injection system? I typically make sure to start it and let it run for a while at least once a month during the winter.

5. The rear swingarm has been swapped for one out of a suzuki GS1000. I currently have the stock one. I plan on leaving the suzuki one in there but it seems like it makes the bike a little lower. I don't think I care too much. I imagine the Suzuki one is an upgrade as I've heard it's longer and wider. It seems to ride nice. Can anyone confirm or give me any more details about this sort of swap?

I look forward to meeting you all! Thank you in advance for any advice you may have!

Replied by z1kzonly on topic GS1000 swingarm fits kz900/kz1000

11 Apr 2020 11:50
z1kzonly's Avatar z1kzonly
Those are BEAUTIFUL Scirocco! I would have to re-mortgage my house $$$ to buy them & ship from Germany!!!
Those wheels are on my Fantasy Dream Motorcycle! The 2 tires would be drag slicks!

Replied by Mikaw on topic Replacement Adjustable Or Dog Leg Front Brake Lever

09 Apr 2020 17:47
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No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationI found these and bought a set about 6 months ago for a custom build. Haven’t started yet, still acquiring parts and waiting on frame, swing arm (GS1100E), and small parts to come back from powder coat. I wasn’t worried they were black. But I assume yo could them the recoated.

Replied by Geardrivencams on topic KZ650 swingarm "sleeve" repair options

09 Apr 2020 08:19
Geardrivencams's Avatar Geardrivencams
Well, I believe I found the solution.

All Balls racing sells a 16x22x225mm sleeve with a hardened and treated face.

Went in easily with four new needle roller bearings and a new bolt.

Part#40-2132, but please confirm when you order. They also have a longer one that might work in larger models.

Hope this helps get people on the road, COVID can't keep up in the twisty stuff.

Replied by Scirocco on topic GS1000 swingarm fits kz900/kz1000

06 Apr 2020 14:58
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z1kzonly wrote:
I am looking for a front Z1-H2, 6 bolt hole disc brake rim? Or an 18" aluminum Akront, Sun, Excel rim.

Make me an offer for both wheels





Replied by z1kzonly on topic GS1000 swingarm fits kz900/kz1000

06 Apr 2020 14:00
z1kzonly's Avatar z1kzonly
usa forever wrote: I have one that I am just putting on a Resto custom with a Tracy body hey let me send you a pic I appreciate your help brother thank you I have odds and ends of kz900 / 1000 Parts if you need any let me know I might be able to help
Cool looking, period correct paint. You should be careful and shoot some nice urethane clear coat on it.
I am looking for a front Z1-H2, 6 bolt hole disc brake rim? Or an 18" aluminum Akront, Sun, Excel rim.

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