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Replied by DOHC on topic Common Problems Among the Z1/KZ Line

09 Apr 2022 20:15
DOHC's Avatar DOHC
Hello,

I am new to the Z1 / KZ platform as well as riding as a whole. I’m building up a 1976 Kawasaki KZ900 from box parts that I was given as well as a good condition frame and decent engine.

Are there any inherent problems with the  platform or anything I need to “bulletproof “ before I put the thing together? I’m not going for a cafe racer build or a stock restoration but more something along the lines of a resto mod. Any advice would be helpful.
The KZ "big four" engines are very reliable.  My '78 KZ1000 has about 45k miles on it and it runs great.  Do you have any idea how many miles are on the engine you have?

As mentioned, the brakes are not great.  If you're doing a restomod I would definitely switch to a modern caliper and master cylinder.

The OE steering head bearings use bicycle style 1/4" balls, and over time they dent the race and create a sticky spot on center.  This can make low speed handling pretty sketchy.  Many folks switch to roller bearings, but I just used new factory parts. 

I'm not sure if the rear swingarm pivot on the '76 uses needle bearings or bushings.  But the later KZ1000 switched to four needle bearings.  If you stick with the stock swingarm I'd look into new needle bearings.

For suspension, a new set of quality rear shocks would probably be a good idea.  If you want to get fancy, you can replace the fork damper rods with aftermarket valves.   racetech.com/page/title/GVWHYGV

Or if you're doing a more serious restomod, most people just swap out the entire from end for a modern one.

There are plenty of performance parts available for these engines if you really want to get into it.   kzzone.com/

 

Replied by ThatGPzGuy on topic Hello from New England - GPZ550D1

02 Apr 2022 06:00 - 02 Apr 2022 06:20
ThatGPzGuy's Avatar ThatGPzGuy
Welcome. As you can tell by my handle, I'm a big fan of the GPz's. The 550s are special. I wish my 750 handled as well as the 550 I had in college.
It looks like you have a plan. I would add foundational; items like steering head and swing arm bearings. And, if you are going to replace the brake lines replace them with SS. Galfer makes a set and offers good customer service. 
Oh and bookmark this page:  Partzilla 1981 GPz550  

Replied by scubaanders on topic Who can resist a non runner? The Orson Welles project (1984) Gpz1100 1984

10 Mar 2022 12:01 - 11 Mar 2022 06:45
scubaanders's Avatar scubaanders
Well I do need to work on my 3D printing skills for sure, haven’t really been able to get it right. But I got the rims back from paint and could finish the dry build of the fork and the swingarm/rear wheel.


The Zephyr 1100 fork with a ZR750 rim, Zephyr 1100 310mm brake discs and GSX-R 600 calipers fits like a charm. Rear wheel also lined right up and I need to shave of 8mm from the cush drive to get the chain to run strait. So then it was time to get the engine out of the frame and started with the lover front engine bolt.
Of some strange reason it’s fitted from the wrong side but that was not the problem, the bolt was stuck in the steel sleeves of the rubber mounts. Knock it, turn it noting happened except that the engine mounts started to rotate in the engine block.
Tried to knock it back an fourth and soaking it with penetrating oil, knocked harder and the engine mounts started to come out, but because the bolt was fitted from the wrong side there was no way in hell to get the engine mount to pass the bracket in the frame.


Went and borrowed the heavy artillery, the mother of all induction heater.


Heated, knocked, heated hit it, nothing, heated until the bolt was almost white and the rubber mounts on fire, still nothing.


So sadly I had to revert to sawing of the engine bolt with a lose hacksaw blade. Right it took three hours until I had sawed off the stupid bolt. Funny that the only hard bolt made in Japan had to be in my lower engine mount and the ergonomics left a lot to ask for when I was jacking back and forth with the blade,


There was no way to get in there with an angle grinder without risking hitting the engine case or the frame. Then I had to give up and return the Induction heater and came back the next weekend and continued.


As you can see, me my stupid mutt had not only sawed it of once, but almost twice as I had turned the bolt. The other mounts was no problems at all, they were not stuck at all.After making sure that all bolts were free, I lay the bike down, 


Took of the front fork and the rear wheel off.


Lifted the frame off and the engine was out.


Striped the last little bits and the frame is now ready for welding on the bracket for the brake torque rod and then sandblasting and paint.


//A       

Replied by 750 R1 on topic Anti-theft options

09 Mar 2022 23:04 - 09 Mar 2022 23:04
750 R1's Avatar 750 R1
I once had a mercury switch bike alarm that would wake the dead, as soon as the bike was stood up straight it screamed its bloody lungs out...
Works great if your bike is close, then its up to you, baseball bat, lump of pipe, pick handle, you get it, and a little tip, don't waste your time swinging high, swing like you're going to hit them high and drop and take out the side of the knee, works wonders, can't steel a bike, fight or run away with one leg......or so i've been told....

Replied by kzstreetfighter71 on topic 79 Kz1000 swingarm removal

06 Mar 2022 09:42
kzstreetfighter71's Avatar kzstreetfighter71
On the ST there isnt a regular Pinion that runs from one side to the other but 2 lugs that support the swing arm like the pic below, once the bolts are gone off then pry nice and easy with a large flat head screwdriver or pry bar.
 

Replied by Buzz Nichols on topic '78 KZ1000 Ugly Duckling

26 Feb 2022 14:59
Buzz Nichols's Avatar Buzz Nichols
I managed to get a little work done last night and today. I pulled the swingarm and torque bar off, soaked them in a 1:1 solution of Simple Green, and scrubbed them with up. Then I busted out the poor man's powder coat

 

and I think the results look pretty okay

   

Also into the Simple Green went the fork tubes. After a ton of sanding and polishing, this is what I got:

 

That left me with just enough time to mess around with the rear brake. I got it resurfaced at a local shop, and decided to drill it out. I came up with a new version of the pattern I made for the front discs that's a little busier: the front ones each have 45 holes, but the rear one has 60. 

 

That's about it for now. I'm waiting for some Progressive springs and a set of rear shocks (I was inspired by 750 R1's build to get the very same set of Ohlins copies), and then I can start putting stuff back together.

Replied by Oysteinaar on topic 1979 KZ650B Streamlined Restomod

24 Feb 2022 13:20
Oysteinaar's Avatar Oysteinaar
The frame is now painted, I first wirebrushed and sanded the frame, washed it, and then did 2 layers of "rust-milk" as I like to call it (Würth rust converter). Man... this stuff works wonders. I have previously used it on cars, and It's like magic, just look at the difference! And also you need like maybe 1dl of it to coat the frame with two thick layers.






Picture before sanding:


After sanding/wire brushing and applying the rustmilk:


I then waited for it to cure and put one layer of hammerite black semi-gloss paint. (I know spray painting it would look nicer, but since I want the bike ready for summer, that's not an option. Also I honestly believe its way more protected against rust as it is now). The swingarm, triple tree, and the two stands will be painted when removed for service (bearings etc).

Replied by Shankkole on topic 750 Twin Trike

12 Feb 2022 05:17
Shankkole's Avatar Shankkole
Yes     KZQ   thats a 50s servi rear end.
I also would like to ask if you have weighed your trike at the tires?
Mine came out 176 pounds on the front tire and 258 on each rear.   I took these numbers while reinforcing my swingarm. 
I agree with the binding at the swingarm, but again what about every factory 3 wheeler? Am I wrong on thinking the bearings will "lift the bike" before they fail?(total of 1000 lb+)
Basically if the swingarm  binds because of flexing, if it don't flex are we then good to go?  
I am asking questions to poke holes in my theories, not yours.I am wrong a lot ,hahahaha  
you can see the springs I added for the "unsprung" weight. After the springs and mono shock she is SMOOTH.

Replied by KZQ on topic 750 Twin Trike

11 Feb 2022 19:41
KZQ's Avatar KZQ
The main problem at the rear is the added unsprung weight , when adding the dual wheels and diff, also, the rear suspension wants to now act as independent , as your wheels are now outboard and want to react as a car suspension would, wheels going up and down independently,  you now get binding at the swingarm pivot because it only wants to go up and down..
 
You're right 750 R1. The swing arm bearings are heavily used, at least. These are double needle bearings per side and so far they're really rigid. Another factor is the double dog bone arrangement which keeps the swing arm stiff against lateral twisting forces.

Shankkole,
Looking at your axle , do I see that it's an actual Harley Servi Car axle?

Thanks
Bill

Basketcase 1075 Prostreet...ish was created by andler2008

07 Feb 2022 13:05
andler2008's Avatar andler2008
Hey Everyone! It has been a long time since I've been in the motorcycle game, let alone the KZ world, but so damn glad to be back. On to the good stuff. Well, kinda...

TL,DR: Questionable past of a "pro street" build, lots of miscellaneous mismatched parts, need to figure out best route to go for a decent street build. Pics will come tonight. Questions further down....

Traded a clean studded 5.3 LM7 and all my various parts for this KZ 1000. I feel like I got the better end of the deal, clean title, mostly complete parts bin, nice roller, etc.. The story I got was that he bought it running from a gentleman in WV who drag raced with it. No confirmation by way of pictures or time slips, so no reason to doubt up to the point. THEN he starts telling me how it being a 1075 with these carbs(I find out carbs are later model VM28's, non pumper, sometime from 1972-1975, based on info I found here) and it had some 300hp. Now I'm starting to feel like this is not what I think it is. 300hp on a 1075 with VM28's seems really far fetched. But as we continue on, he claims it to have an undercut trans, it does have an air shifter setup, Dyna limiter box at the top of the tree, Dyna ignition at the crank(I don't recall seeing a box that I thought they needed to run), excel coils, wires, +2 swingarm, J Head, KZ cylinders, KZ block, and some giant cams. Has all the trimmings to be a fun street bike with a little grunt for a fun few runs at the track, but I'm thinking more about 125 hp at best. Maybe even less. So I get it all home and did the research on the parts that did come home. 

Frame VIN (Thank the lord Zedder exists) shows it as a 1980 KZ1000-E2 Shaftie, Motor VIN shows it as a 1980 KZ1000-A4 MKII. He had 2 different cams, one is a web 231(.470 lift, 300 dur.) and a Cammotion Z10(.485 lift, 272 dur.). Cylinder bore is 2.835 or so, pistons measuring 2.825 ish, so 1075 seems correct. 3 of the pistons have no markings, shocker. One piston has the Wiseco emblem and the 4052 embossed underneath. So still not sure what was happening here, but I'm working under the assumption that a few valves were playing footsies with 3 of the pistons, and that's why a few of them are different and a new head appeared. The one Wiseco piston has a wrist pin sticking halfway out, it is 17mm, and it's 100% seized. I'm sure it'll press out fine, but I assumed they should be able to slide into the piston fine(assuming there are no burrs from the c clip moving in the groove). I figure the con rod will need to be heated to allow the pin to slide in and the piston will have a smidge of free space to slide in, but I have never done this before so correct me if I'm wrong. Also, he said the center gasket on the cylinders was milled out and epoxied where it separates the timing chain from the cylinders. Why? I assume it's an old school thing, but definitely threw me through a loop.

Goals. Fun street bike, I'll probably only use it to go back and forth to work for the most part, maybe take it to the track once or twice, but nothing crazy. Yet.

So, now you all have the information I have. Here is where I have a few questions, that I've not yet been able to find here. 
-I know I'll lose a couple points in compression using a J Head on KZ engine, but if someone were to make this head fit on this motor from a compression perspective, what would be the changes? Milling the head? milling the cylinders down? Need to make sure this wasn't some bastard child that was put together before I move on to other things. Would I be better off running a stock KZ head?
-I'm going to weigh the pistons to at least make sure they're all the same in that perspective, but can someone help clear up the proper way to install a wrist pin? Heat up Piston in the oven then heat up the con rod, then glove up and throw the pin in afterwards? Would I just be better off buying a new set of pistons, rings, clips, and pins? Trying not to do that yet, but will do what's necessary to keep this old girl alive. 
-CAMS. These cams seems to be insanely oversized for a 1075 and VM28's. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I feel with my limited knowledge of these motors. I've heard the Web 118's are perfect for a 1075 mild street build, but need to make sure the valves weren't under shimmed for the monster cams it came with. 
-VM28's Carbs. I have no problem rebuilding, balancing and tuning carbs, but I'm not sure if these will be good enough for this application. VM29 Smoothbores better? RS34's? CRS31's?
 

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