WIN 10 End of Life 10/14/2025 - anyone moving to Linux?
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Re: WIN 10 End of Life 10/14/2025 - anyone moving to Linux?
02 Feb 2025 17:32 - 02 Feb 2025 17:33My oldest PC is one I built circa 2007 & is creaking along on WIN 10 painfully slowly when running that HDD.
I discovered not long ago that old machines running new Windows can be completely hobbled by a slow spinning hard drive alone.
In 2021 my mom's computer from 2013 was unusable. It took minutes to boot, and what seemed like minutes just to load the browser. I bought her a brand new Dell and was shocked when setting it up that the new computer was also nearly useless. It also had a spinning disk hard drive. I ended up replacing the drives in both computers with solid state drives, and now the one from 2013 runs great. It boots super fast, the browsers runs great. There was no need to upgrade at all (but it still doesn't support Win11).
As for the 2021 model, I couldn't believe that Dell would sell a computer that preformed so poorly right out of the box. I guess they figured maybe no one would actually order the spinning drive option? Like it was just there so they could add an upcharge for the SSD?
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03 Feb 2025 06:11Good Ridin'
Why the focus on lightweight distros? How old is the hardware?
Between 10 ~ 17 yrs. I tend toward Linux Mint w / Xfce desktop for the newer, more powerful machines.
On the other hand, I also discovered recently that modern distros don't run well on a 32-bit machine, even the lightweight ones that claim to have 32-bit support. It just didn't work. I have a dual Pentium III machine, 1G of ram, really very fancy for 2002, but none of the 3 or 4 versions that I tried would even run the desktop UI.
Try AntiX 32 bit. Based on Debian Stable. Fast & easy GUI installer, very fast OS. Might be surprised...
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04 Feb 2025 11:22
I'll be switching to Linux (probably Debian) with a virtual machine for running CAD software (the only thing that keeps me on windows).
You guys don't want to upgrade to windows 11! I use it on a work computer and it's so slow when it shouldn't be... This is a trend I've seen in recent years; compensating for terrible code with more powerful hardware. Windows XP or 7 was the peak of M$
You guys don't want to upgrade to windows 11! I use it on a work computer and it's so slow when it shouldn't be... This is a trend I've seen in recent years; compensating for terrible code with more powerful hardware. Windows XP or 7 was the peak of M$
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Re: WIN 10 End of Life 10/14/2025 - anyone moving to Linux?
04 Feb 2025 14:00
I have 11 and it's unstable.
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04 Feb 2025 14:09 - 04 Feb 2025 14:11
Older PCs, particularly laptops that can barely run windows any more, can be made perfectly usable again by installing a Linux distro, in particular Linux Mint if you want a very 'windows like' experience out of the box (but most distros can be massaged to look and act like windows if you really need that - but you'll find, after using Linux for a while, there's really no reason to make it look/work like windows.
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04 Feb 2025 14:55
I'm running the latest windows 11 home edition on a Azuzs desktop that I had built in 2023. It runs great and is lightning fast with a hard wired Ethernet connection. I don't use it much except for my 5.1 surround system that it easily supports. I didn't want a new system but my older Win 10 was not compatable with a 11 upgrade ?. I've had better luck with my phone OS, ( the one I'm typing on now), bought in 2018 and it's still working fine. Still gets app updates but no OS update. If it ain't broke ...
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08 Feb 2025 08:30
I'm focusing on Linux Lite for very the near future. Designed to be very friendly to Window$ refugees. Based on Debian Stable / Ubuntu LTS. The OS installer, system updater and optional application installers have all been solid for me. I'll likely use it on Z1BEBE's PC when the time comes. Perhaps I'll use it on most all the other PC's in the house when the time comes, with the exception for my dedicated banking PC that's been running AntiX (Debian) perfectly for a few years.
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Re: WIN 10 End of Life 10/14/2025 - anyone moving to Linux?
10 Feb 2025 10:45
Hi all - former community college Linux instructor here
though it's been a few years
Ubuntu seems to be updated frequently, as is Fedora, and IIRC both distros (i.e. distributions) make updates fairly easy.
To DOHC's point, a Solid State Drive (SSD) is probably the best single upgrade available for older machines. Those systems tended to have less RAM, and (oversimplified) when the operating system runs out of RAM to store apps, etc. that are currently being used, it copies things to and from the hard drive; this is a big part of why rotating-media hard drives are so painful to use: mechanical = slow. SSDs have no moving parts and are wicked fast, and even if the machine does run out of available RAM, the swapping to/from the SSD will be so much faster that the lag likely won't be noticeable.
I took a Lenovo core-i3 laptop, upgraded it to 16GB of RAM, installed an SSD, and set it up with Fedora Linux. It runs really well, though it was kind of a PITA to get past the UEFI (formerly called the BIOS) to be able to boot from something other than the hard drive.
Ubuntu seems to be updated frequently, as is Fedora, and IIRC both distros (i.e. distributions) make updates fairly easy.
To DOHC's point, a Solid State Drive (SSD) is probably the best single upgrade available for older machines. Those systems tended to have less RAM, and (oversimplified) when the operating system runs out of RAM to store apps, etc. that are currently being used, it copies things to and from the hard drive; this is a big part of why rotating-media hard drives are so painful to use: mechanical = slow. SSDs have no moving parts and are wicked fast, and even if the machine does run out of available RAM, the swapping to/from the SSD will be so much faster that the lag likely won't be noticeable.
I took a Lenovo core-i3 laptop, upgraded it to 16GB of RAM, installed an SSD, and set it up with Fedora Linux. It runs really well, though it was kind of a PITA to get past the UEFI (formerly called the BIOS) to be able to boot from something other than the hard drive.
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