Non kz engine swaps

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Non kz engine swaps

08 Sep 2016 11:18
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With the progress on my dads kz I really got the itch to do my own kz project
Looking for a ground up custom build instead of any restoration or period correct parts fitments
So any other engine swaps happen on here?
These chassis seem beefy and open enough to accept anything that can have mounts welded in place
Just looking for some inspiration
Thinking of something with fuel injection and street able mid range power with modern suspension brakes and wheels/tired

Joe

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Re: Re:Non kz engine swaps

08 Sep 2016 11:33
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I've seen pics of a 'busa engined ZRX.

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Re: Re:Non kz engine swaps

08 Sep 2016 11:38
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What are similar frames to the 77 kz1000?

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Re: Re:Non kz engine swaps

08 Sep 2016 13:43
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KZ frames are not known for their rigidity. Whatever transplant youre going to do,its probably a good idea to stiffen up the frame. Other than that,its a fantastic idea. I always wondered if I could stick a CBR engine into a 500/4 frame. I reckon the biggest problem,wih fitting a modern engine,would be the fuel tank/airbox as its different architecture to the old school bikes.
What about a Supercharged H2 Ninja engine????!!!
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/594313-csr1000-project-build
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Re: Re:Non kz engine swaps

08 Sep 2016 13:51
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I think I'd be looking at something with similar power to the Zed motor but lighter, I don't know about in the US but in the UK you can get the early 90s GSX750 Katanas really cheap, you could use the engine and running gear from one of those, engine might look a bit small in the Zed frame.

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Re: Non kz engine swaps

08 Sep 2016 15:35
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Thanks for the comments
I would be using all original kz body work and probably pod filters
I really like the sound of the 09+ R1 engines
Just doing some research yet bit leaning towards an FI liter engine

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Re: Non kz engine swaps

08 Sep 2016 17:39
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Prolly a kz1000
Late 70s

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Re: Re:Non kz engine swaps

08 Sep 2016 18:04
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Not quite the same bike but a buddy of mine tried stuffing a 900RR engine into a steel Zx600C frame. It fits ok but due to the downdraft carbs there is only about 1/2" from the frame's backbone to the carb mouths. No room for any sort of air filtration.

So that is one issue you'll have. The other is going to be room to mount a radiator in front on the engine without it hitting the forks, frame, or headers.

Not saying these issues can't be overcome but you're going to have many headaches along the way.

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Re: Non kz engine swaps

08 Sep 2016 18:09 - 09 Sep 2016 05:19
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No problem at all - other folks have done it. Two major success stories are shown below:

Modify KZ engine to use water-cooled Suzuki cylinders:

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Install Yamaha engine on KZ650 frame:

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Granted, each of these needs maybe an hour or so fine tuning, but other than that I'm sure their owners are proud of the finished products; clearly they are much better than the stock bikes would be. :laugh: Ed
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Re: Non kz engine swaps

08 Sep 2016 19:18
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Well I have access to machining equipment and fabrication equipment
I gotta find a clean frame first

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Re: Non kz engine swaps

08 Sep 2016 19:21
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Pic of the bike in question?
Steve

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