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Re: frame bracing

18 Dec 2012 00:03
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I wanna get my frame braced. Wanna get it done in the next month.
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Re: frame bracing

18 Dec 2012 00:25
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Powerstroke_fan wrote: I wanna get my frame braced. Wanna get it done in the next month.

Check with WIREMAN he was talking about cutting some steel blank kits I thought?

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Re: frame bracing

18 Dec 2012 00:45
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Ive got the templates all made,I just haven't had any time lately to focus on cutting the pieces out! :sick:
I want to get the frame on my bench finished up so I can work the bugs out of the parts before trying to mass produce them,never enough hrs in my day lately! :woohoo:
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Re: frame bracing

18 Dec 2012 00:46
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wireman wrote: Ive got the templates all made,I just haven't had any time lately to focus on cutting the pieces out! :sick:
I want to get the frame on my bench finished up so I can work the bugs out of the parts before trying to mass produce them,never enough hrs in my day lately! :woohoo:

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Re: frame bracing

18 Dec 2012 02:48
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Toad,

An engine mount kit can take a lot of slop out of a stock frame. The kit I'm using is from Pingle. The engine castings and frame will need to be drilled and reamed for correct fit, it's worth the work.
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Re: frame bracing

18 Dec 2012 13:13 - 18 Dec 2012 13:14
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kidkawi,
a stiffer swingarm can make a world of difference in the handling of these old bikes and does not require frame mods.
leon


p.s. i have made several frame brace kits.










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Re: frame bracing

18 Dec 2012 13:22
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Some of that bracing looks like overkill. The two frame rails that bend around the front down tubes are welded to the down tubes, creating a triangle, so that plate is not needed IMO. I think most of the flex comes from behind the engine, not the steering tube.
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Re: frame bracing

18 Dec 2012 13:30
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the awesome thing about building your own bike is you can use or not use whatever you like.
if you don't think a brace is necessary don't use.
if you like the way a stock swingarm looks,use it.
if you get tired of unwanted lane changes when you hit a bump mid corner,get a stiffer swingarm and maybe try some frame braces.
it is ultimately your decision.

i made mine when i cut out the frame braces you see.

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Re: frame bracing

18 Dec 2012 13:41
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www.speedwaymotors.com/1932-Ford-Frame-C...ing-Plates,7531.html
Hot rodders learned a long time ago that it doesn't matter how big of a motor you shove in a model A ford or how fancy of suspension/axles/brakes you stick under it .
If the frame bends like limp noodle everytime you hit the gas or jump on those big brakes at some point youll find yourself in deep $hit because of it at the worst possible moment! :woohoo:
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Re: frame bracing

18 Dec 2012 14:19
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Kidkawie wrote: Some of that bracing looks like overkill. The two frame rails that bend around the front down tubes are welded to the down tubes, creating a triangle, so that plate is not needed IMO. I think most of the flex comes from behind the engine, not the steering tube.

if your bike handles anything like mine the overkill is much appreciated :lol:

plus if i know im building a bike to 160 to 200 hp i want the frame and everything else to be capable of twice that. overkill is bliss
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Re: frame bracing

18 Dec 2012 14:39 - 18 Dec 2012 14:39
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Racing is one thing, I'm talking everyday street riding/cruising. I could easily throw a crapload of gussets on my frame and call it a day, I'm looking for someone to find exactly what the problem is with the older frames. Like I said, riding it seems like behind the engine is the weakest spot, possibly where those triangular gussets are above the swingarm bolt.

I guess the only way to really find out is to put a bare frame/engine in a jig and tray to fold it in half.
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Re: frame bracing

18 Dec 2012 14:47
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Kidkawie wrote: Racing is one thing, I'm talking everyday street riding/cruising. I could easily throw a crapload of gussets on my frame and call it a day, I'm looking for someone to find exactly what the problem is with the older frames. Like I said, riding it seems like behind the engine is the weakest spot, possibly where those triangular gussets are above the swingarm bolt.

I guess the only way to really find out is to put a bare frame/engine in a jig and tray to fold it in half.

i think alot of it was inconsistent headtubes and welds then the flimsy swing arm and undersized motor bolts mostly
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