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frame bracing 28 May 2009 06:26 #294594

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i have a pdf file that is three pages that has some really good pictures of a braced frame from japan that is bronze welded together,and a very good visual for someone who is wanting to brace there own.
but i can't upload a pdf file to the site,so if someone can tell me how to convert it to something that i can upload i will gladly share :) .

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frame bracing 28 May 2009 06:52 #294595

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If you could email me the pdf at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

I'm interested in bracing a frame this winter.

Thanks.
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frame bracing 28 May 2009 07:16 #294599

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i sent it gershom,hope it helps you out.the bronze welding makes it real easy to see where they added the braces.
you can buy chrome-moly from
www.shapirosupply.com/index.php?main_pag...4cde5ef7d96006b58d7e

or from

www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/me/steel.html

hth,
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1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

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frame bracing 28 May 2009 07:45 #294604

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Dang, you're right, can't attach pdf's directly in a post, as far as I remember you used to able to.

Anyway, you should be able to upload a pdf to the filebase.
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frame bracing 28 May 2009 08:18 #294613

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Thanks for the email!

It is similar to what I've seen before with the exception of the extra down tubes that attach to the neck.

Cool stuff.
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frame bracing 28 May 2009 09:06 #294622

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thanks for the heads up OnkleB,
i uploaded it to the filebase.it is listed as "the_frame" in the filebase.i just wanted to share and make it to where when someone came on asking about bracing we could point them to some good examples to help guide them.

leon holmes
skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

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www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0

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frame bracing 28 May 2009 09:12 #294623

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no problem gershom,i hope you got something useful from it.

leon holmes
skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

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www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0

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frame bracing 28 May 2009 09:21 #294627

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now i know what to do with my fire damaged z-1 frame someday.....here we go again....honey i got another project!!!!
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frame bracing 28 May 2009 09:54 #294633

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"honey i got another project!!!! "
you keep that up and she will know how much time and money you spend,and then she will want to regulate both.
best to keep the women out of the bike business:P .
you should tell her that you just go the garage and relax,meditate whatever.and sometimes a midget comes and takes all your money!
see,then you account for your time and money!
okay maybe she won't go for a midget rolling your biga$$,but it does account for the time!
then when you bust your knuckles wrenching you can tell her the midget got his a$$ kicked.
okay don't listen to me and keep doin whatever attracted her to you in the first place:woohoo: .

leon holmes
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1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

billybiltit.blogspot.com/

www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0

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frame bracing 28 May 2009 11:06 #294643

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Thanks for sharing Banshee.
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frame bracing 01 Jun 2009 14:23 #295518

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no sweat eruhf!i am here to help.

leon holmes
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1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

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www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

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frame bracing 01 Jun 2009 14:38 #295524

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frame bracing 01 Jun 2009 18:43 #295602

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Still recovering,some days are better than others.
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frame bracing 01 Jun 2009 19:00 #295613

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Kano... Please translate what it says for christ sakes.... :S :laugh:
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frame bracing 01 Jun 2009 19:51 #295644

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OMR wrote: "Kano... Please translate what it says for christ sakes.... "

If my memory serves me right, from my time on Okinawa in the late 60’s, that Japanese text is the lyrics to In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida. I could be wrong. Ed
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frame bracing 02 Jun 2009 06:56 #295714

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kano is the man! :woohoo:
thanks for the help bro!
who cares what it says,the pictures speak for themselves:P .
japanese doesn't translate to english very clearly,it ends up sounding all philosophical.which isn't a bad thing,but i am one of those people that can figure out more by looking than listening to descriptions.then if i get hung up,i look for the words.hehe.
i really liked these pics because being welded with the bronze makes the gussets easier to see.
happy to share,hope folks get some ideas/inspiration.

leon holmes
skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

billybiltit.blogspot.com/

www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0

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frame bracing 02 Jun 2009 08:51 #295730

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I'll translate, my bike has a Japanese word I put there myself so obviously I can speek Japanese.

Page 1:

These bikes are very fast and scary without proper frame structure to carry the loads imposed by the rigors of high speed riding and handling.

John here is a master frame builder with over 50 years of experience who thinks the most important part is getting the pieces to flow together and agree in a harmony of strength and the proper flexability needed to produce a world class bike.

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This old frame has been braced with light weight chromoly tubing and gussets to produce better handling in both street riding and aggressive racing conditions.

(Inset) Jimmy loves his new frame and has commented the color matches his racing leathers well. Also he has gone from sliding out of the first corner at every race to finishing first at every race. If he had one thing to say it would be "thanks John".

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Make your frame look like this and you can be a winner like Jimmy or gainfully employed like John. Also John would like everone to remember not to weld directly to the frame as the bracing must be forged in to achieve the proper balance and harmony necessary to extract the most performance out of bike that is 30 years ahead of its American and European counterparts.



Seriously thats all it says. Sure it looks longer, but thats only due to inefficiencies in translating the words in such a way that most moto-mag readers can understand it.

Thanks again to Kano for getting these up. I might need to re-powder my frame now as I would like to go back through my frame and tighten it up a bit.
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