Engine turns over, no spark still

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Re: Engine turns over, no spark still

27 Jun 2020 15:48
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Rick H. wrote: Somewhere on this I am getting lost. Perhaps it is in the verbiage. I have never heard this diagnosis explained in this fashion.

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Where are you getting lost Rick?
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Re: Engine turns over, no spark still

27 Jun 2020 15:51
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When I check the points plate I am getting 16.8mV
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Re: Engine turns over, no spark still

27 Jun 2020 16:00 - 27 Jun 2020 16:13
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ok
so your ground on your points plate is good.
Ignition on
Move your positive meter probe to these wires.

When you got the 16.8 mv, was the ignition on?
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Re: Engine turns over, no spark still

27 Jun 2020 16:18
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F64 wrote: ok
so your ground on your points plate is good.
Ignition on
Move your positive meter probe to these wires.

When you got the 16.8 mv, was the ignition on?

Yes, the ignition was on. For the other two wires I got 12.56v on both
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Re: Engine turns over, no spark still

27 Jun 2020 16:21
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before the next measurement.
get a small file and sand your point contacts
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Re: Engine turns over, no spark still

27 Jun 2020 16:25
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Rick,
This is where I learned a bit more of troubleshooting.
Dan Sullivan's
Fundamental Electrical Troubleshooting.
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Re: Engine turns over, no spark still

27 Jun 2020 16:26
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F64 wrote: before the next measurement.
get a small file and sand your point contacts

Ok, my points are brand new, should I still sand em down a bit?
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Re: Engine turns over, no spark still

27 Jun 2020 16:35
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yes, lightly and clean with alcohol.
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Re: Engine turns over, no spark still

27 Jun 2020 16:37
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Ok ill work on that, what is the next thing I should measure after I sand the points?
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Re: Engine turns over, no spark still

27 Jun 2020 16:50
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Be seriously gentle “filing” points... I’d check them first for pitting... if they are smooth and not pitted you not gaining anything... actually you be changing the gap and starting another issue
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Re: Engine turns over, no spark still

27 Jun 2020 16:51 - 27 Jun 2020 16:53
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Ignition on
points closed
20v DC scale on meter
negative meter probe on negative battery terminal
positive probe on each of these points
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Re: Engine turns over, no spark still

27 Jun 2020 16:58
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Mikaw wrote: Be seriously gentle “filing” points... I’d check them first for pitting... if they are smooth and not pitted you not gaining anything... actually you be changing the gap and starting another issue

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The points are new.
I'm eliminating the possibility of a coating or residue on the points.
There is a break in the circuit between the points plate and the wires going out to the coil.
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