No spark at the POINTS??

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15 Feb 2011 05:34 #430796 by bgmrc
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yes mine is the pull clutch to use starter...

and i was in nuetral and kickin her...

it felt kinda strange....as i said

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15 Feb 2011 13:24 #430883 by TeK9iNe
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bgmrc wrote:

yes mine is the pull clutch to use starter...

and i was in nuetral and kickin her...

it felt kinda strange....as i said


:laugh: The descriptor "strange" does not compute.

Describe what is happening in order of what you do.

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16 Feb 2011 08:52 #431056 by bgmrc
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yea...re reading that was a little OFF sounding...


when im in neutral and on bike...when i kick it it is very easy to kick with like little resistance and it seems not to move the pistons thru rotation nearly enough...if that makes sence...

like 1 full kick barely gets the bike to turn over....it feels as strange as it sounds discribing it to yall...

Ima pop start it down my local church parkin lot on friday or sat. I just ordered a starter off ebay and will install that when it comes in...till then its down the hill time..

thanx

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16 Feb 2011 11:31 #431072 by Patton
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If not already done, would try kicking in neutral while NOT squeezing the clutch lever.

In event clutch is failing to fully engage with lever not being squeezed, could mean clutch is "slipping" which might be resolved by a simple push-rod adjustment.

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16 Feb 2011 12:42 - 16 Feb 2011 12:45 #431085 by bgmrc
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^^interesting...i dont pull the clutch in what starting with kicker...or start button...due to the clutch wires pulled out..

as mine is wired to not need to pull the clutch in to start it...the 2 black wires ar not going to the clutch right now...they r just twisted together....

so i still might need still pull the clutch when useing the kicker??.oppisite of what ur describing above??..even though its not needed electricly??

wondering...

when i get time ill look into fixing that clutch lever
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16 Feb 2011 13:33 #431094 by Patton
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bgmrc wrote:

...so i still might need still pull the clutch when useing the kicker? when i get time ill look into fixing that clutch lever


Don't squeeze the clutch lever when using the kick starter.

The clutch lever is of course located on the left side of the handlebar. It works the clutch cable that enters the sprocket cover.

The clutch push-rod adjustment is accessed through a removable panel on the sprocket cover. If the prescribed gap isn't set, it may be too tight and thereby preventing full clutch engagement which causes the clutch to slip even when the clutch lever isn't being squeezed.

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17 Feb 2011 07:31 #431230 by bgmrc
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is the adjustment in the manual?


il look and make that adjustment if needed

Thanks bro!!

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17 Feb 2011 09:42 - 17 Feb 2011 13:51 #431250 by Patton
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bgmrc wrote:

is the adjustment in the manual?....


Yes, it's a routine maintenance item.

Assure having some "slop" in the cable.

Removing the access plate should reveal the adjustment screw and locknut.

First, slightly loosen the locknut.

The hidden end of the screw interfaces with the pushrod.

The basic idea is to lightly seat the screw against the pushrod, then back the screw 1/4 turn away from the pushrod, to thereby provide a small gap between end of screw and pushrod.

Here's a possible snag ---
The screw is part of an actuator assembly.
On some designs (screw-type), the screw turns clockwise to seat before turning counter-clockwise to provide the gap.
On other designs (ball and ramp), the screw turns counter-clockwise to seat before turning clockwise to provide the gap.

Will now speculate that the bike at hand has the ball and ramp style, whereby the screw turns counter-clockwise to seat before turning clockwise to provide the gap. But I might be wrong. So if it doesn't work that way, adjust it the other way.

Remember to snug the locknut before finishing. Just snug is plenty tight enough.

Lastly, reduce "slop" in the cable to produce desired amount of free play in the lever at the perch.

Good Fortune! :)

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17 Feb 2011 13:11 #431294 by bgmrc
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CHECKIN THE ABOVE TONIGHT^^

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18 Feb 2011 07:46 - 18 Feb 2011 07:48 #431520 by bgmrc
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adjusted that clutch area on the case and it worked perfect!!!!
i had no slack at all in the clutch...and super hard to pull in the clutch...lil adjustment and it works great!!


thanks yall!!

amazing...kicker works good and was able to pop start it on the 3rd try in the parking lot across street...

ran well!!!

all i need now is paint/grinding/re locate battery/cafe seat/front brakes/starter installed/blaa blaa blaa

but now i can start all that now that i now its a running bike

SWEET!!


thamx all!!!
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18 Feb 2011 18:14 #431652 by vosberdv1975
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Check the resistance of your coil. I think it should be between three and five ohms. Also check to make sure your wire to your points is not touching any surface other that the screw to your points. Could also be a faulty condenser.

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20 Feb 2011 10:53 #432105 by bgmrc
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^^thanx bud...replaced all the parts u spoke of...it was a bad set of points

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