Do I need supression wires?

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16 Jan 2011 22:47 #422875 by calvin17d
Do I need supression wires? was created by calvin17d
If I have the 3 ohm Dyna S electronic ignition on the bike in Sig, do I need supression wires?

1976 Kz900 A4

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16 Jan 2011 23:03 #422878 by PLUMMEN
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only if your getting static on your radio! :laugh:

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17 Jan 2011 00:30 #422883 by calvin17d
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Thats kinda what I figured. Just want to be sure ordering this stuff so I only order once....

1976 Kz900 A4

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17 Jan 2011 06:30 #422902 by Patton
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I also prefer and run Dyna's solid wire core plug wires which come pre-fitted with non-resistor caps.

Where radio static actually is an issue, could try resistor spark plugs such as NGKB8RES where the R identifies it as a resistor type plug.

Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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17 Jan 2011 11:29 #422981 by MFolks
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Some uninformed rider have used both resistor sparkplugs and supression sparkplug wires and wonder why they have weak spark. Never use both unless you love troubleshooting!

1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)

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17 Jan 2011 12:35 #422990 by hardr0ck68
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I spent hours trouble shooting my o2 sensor before I finally checked my plug wires (dyna solid core) I switched to supression style and everything worked mint!

1977 kz650 c1

bought it because I was told it would never run again...I like to prove people wrong.

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17 Jan 2011 14:05 #423026 by loudhvx
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Yes, if you have any "modern" electronics (micro processors and such) on the bike acting goofy, it could be that you need suppression wires. Even digital multimeters can get messed up by the wires.

Old electronics like most regulators and older electronic ignitions don't seem to be affected much if at all.

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11 Feb 2011 19:18 #430096 by calvin17d
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Got my new wires ready to go on and Im unsure which plug goes to which input on the coils?

1976 Kz900 A4

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11 Feb 2011 19:24 #430097 by MFolks
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Try this (your primary or small wires may not be the same color as I've listed):

Ignition Coil Primary And Secondary Wiring

Ignition coils on the 80’s Kz1000,Kz1100’s and Gpz1100’s are wired the same, that is as you sit on the bike, the LEFT ignition coil primary(small wires) are two wires, RED and BLACK. The secondary (or sparkplug wires) go to #1 and #4 sparkplugs.

The cylinders are numbered left to right as you sit on the seat; #1,#2,#3, and #4.

For the RIGHT ignition coil, the primary wires, again are two wires, RED and GREEN, with the secondary going to #2 and #3.

The RED wire gets it’s voltage from the run/stop switch on the right handlebar switch pod.

The BLACK and GREEN wires connect to the IC Igniter(if the bike has the Kawasaki supplied electronic ignition) it actually gives the coils their grounds to fire the sparkplugs.

Primary(small wires) side of the coils will read between 1.8 to 3.0 ohms.

Secondary(sparkplug wire ports)side of the coil will read between 10.4K to 15.6K ohms. These ports are wired together, so it makes no difference which is used, as long as the correct coil to sparkplug configuration is followed.

To stress the ignition coils, take a hair dryer, heat the coils and see if the ohm readings change from cold to hot . If they do, it’s time to buy new coils.

Keep in mind, the wiring is reversed for the 550’s 650‘s and 750‘s, that is the RIGHT coil primary will be two wires, RED and BLACK with the secondary(sparkplugs) going to #1 and #4.

The LEFT coils primary wiring would be again two wires, RED and GREEN, with the secondary(sparkplugs) going to #2 and #3.

These engines have what is known as a “Wasted Spark” that is, a sparkplug will fire during an exhaust stroke. It does no damage and many other motorcycle engines have this design.

1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)

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11 Feb 2011 19:27 - 11 Feb 2011 19:29 #430098 by Patton
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calvin17d wrote:

Got my new wires ready to go on and Im unsure which plug goes to which input on the coils?




On 1976 KZ900, "red" wire is red/yellow.

Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
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11 Feb 2011 19:43 #430102 by calvin17d
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thanks guys, I think I understood that, I guess I was concerned as to whether it mattered which of the spark plug wires say for the 1&4 cylinders coil plugged into the forward or rear input of the coil. I guess it doesnt matter?

1976 Kz900 A4

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11 Feb 2011 19:46 #430103 by calvin17d
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MFolks wrote:


Secondary(sparkplug wire ports)side of the coil will read between 10.4K to 15.6K ohms. These ports are wired together, so it makes no difference which is used, as long as the correct coil to sparkplug configuration is followed.


This was what I was looking for

1976 Kz900 A4

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